>
> *Thanks Wiliam. I really appreciate your detailed answer and - like said
> before - we do not think our solution to be perfect yet. This is why we try
> to keep in touch with the community to know what people have to say. Let's
> hope the best for BeagleCore but I'm pretty sure we can make it.*


Well I still have my concerns. Which pretty much has nothing to do with the
hardware really. Except that it is not available _right_now_.

But show me the hardware, when obtain-ium. Then I'll be less reserved.

One thing I am curious about however. Pricing after this has gone to
production. Then when is the projected production date ? e.g. when can the
public start purchasing. If any of this can be divulged . . .


On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 11:10 PM, Beagle Core <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Thanks Wiliam. I really appreciate your detailed answer and - like said
> before - we do not think our solution to be perfect yet. This is why we try
> to keep in touch with the community to know what people have to say. Let's
> hope the best for BeagleCore but I'm pretty sure we can make it.
>
>
>
> Am Mittwoch, 8. Juli 2015 20:47:21 UTC+2 schrieb William Hermans:
>>
>> Also for what it is worth, my buddy did mention to me that the beaglecore
>> would / could be useful for him. After which he named a project we've been
>> talking about. The thing about the beaglecore that threw me for a "loop"
>> was the beaglebone type "motherboard". But now thinking about it, everyone
>> needs an EVAL "system" for development.
>>
>> The beagleboard.org community "compatibility" ( software wise ) is also
>> a nice touch. I am not sure how many, if any of the boards I mentioned can
>> do that. Sure, they all offer BSPs for various OSes / distro's . . . but
>> that does not necessarily mean the same thing. Past that, and quite
>> honestly, I have a strong dislike for anything bitbake, and whatever that
>> build system is for Angstrom( I tried to put all that stuff as far out of
>> my mind as possible ). As all that stuff I feel is not very intuitive, and
>> can be quite a hassle to setup / use.
>>
>> I really enjoy the simplicity of say setting up a rootfs using
>> debootstrap, using chroot to modify the image to my needs, including
>> pulling in a linux-image from the community, using dpkg to "install". But
>> anyway, simple standard tools are my "thing". So in this case, the
>> beaglecore has it nailed. Assuming it comes into fruition.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 11:34 AM, William Hermans <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> *Do enthusiasts have professional equipment? No.*
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *That's an assumptio and depends on the definition of "enthusiast". I
>>>> like the point of view that Robert Budde shared above:*
>>>>
>>>
>>> Exactly, well sort of. I would not consider myself an enthusiast, but I
>>> am a serious hobbyist. While I do not personally own such equipment, I do
>>> have access to just about anything a "professional" has access to in my
>>> home. As my buddy has been an EE for IDK 35 + years, and has acquired quite
>>> a collection. Professional grade Oscilloscopes, logic analyzers, emulators,
>>> 80's arcade PCB test equipment, and last but not least reflow ovens. One
>>> home made out of a convection oven using an MSP430 launchpad( for which I
>>> wrote the code ), and a professional infrared reflow oven.
>>>
>>> To be sure, there is a lot more, but I think the point is made.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 9:14 AM, Maxim Podbereznyy <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> well, they cost ~$1.7 each in Digikey and there is an Altium library
>>>> for the module where you can find the symbol and the footprint for the
>>>> whole module. I guess the Altium library can be imported to other CADs if
>>>> necessary. Having such library minimizes errors on the PCB. I did not have
>>>> any problems at all
>>>>
>>>> 2015-07-08 17:06 GMT+03:00 Robert Budde <[email protected]>:
>>>>
>>>>> In fact, those high density connectors can be a pain on their own:
>>>>> - they cost an awful lot of money even in medium quantaties
>>>>> - alignment is critical, especially if you have more than one per
>>>>> board. Small alignment errors - which sometimes are even hard to avoid 
>>>>> when
>>>>> using properly designed alignment holes - can lead to stress on the
>>>>> contacts and/or result in contact failures. The tolerances allowed in the
>>>>> connector specs have to be split up to alignment errors on both baseboard
>>>>> and som - making life not easier.
>>>>>
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