> Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 00:48:17 +0200 > From: Steen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] The thing with restoring Moved and Deleted > files > To: bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> On Monday 25 June 2007 19:50:09 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > What scares me is that this issue must be more than one year old, and > > nobody ever really complained or did something about it. > Well - many voted for it on the last vote - > many discusions were on this list during the last year > Some already offered monetary support - probably not enough to attract the > workforce I've already explained why this project hasn't been implemented as of yet, so please review the recent email messages for the *real* reason. > I once suggested that we could create another supplementary kind of 'vote and > donation' system, where we could sign in for a donation of a specific sum of > money for specific implementations, and then if the work is not done - > nothing is paid. If the necessary sum of money is reached, all donations are > to be released and paid and the work done. > My reason to suggest this is that it is evident that there is a need for > this - many will pay a little to support it and some will and can pay more > and it all adds up. > I can not make my boss pay a generel donation to Bacula or OSS, but I could > make him pay something to get this feature, but only if there were some > reasonable way to realize that the money would get the feature build. > Where I stand today it is completely in the dark to me what the costs are and how many we are to share it etc.. Here are a few comments about the ideas above (please don't take them personally). IMO, it is a waste of time to create "another suplimentary kind of 'vote and donation system". There have only been two or three paid projects that have been contributed to Bacula, and they have all been completed. One the money was raised by donations to EFF during the project, the monitary goal was reached, and Landon delivered the code in the timeframe had estimated. The accounting for the donations (to EFF) was clear and transparent. The second project (migration) was paid in three stages at my suggestion to the project according to phases of implementing the feature: start, beta, production. The project took longer than expected, but the sponsor (very generous compared to other donations) indicated that the delay was quite normal for software development. The other projects were between the developers and the sponsors so I don't have any details. As a consequence, I don't see any need to worry about money being donated for a specific project that would not be completed. That has never happened in this project. Given human nature that is not to say that it can't or won't happen someday. If you are completely in the dark about costs, please look at the donations page on the web site. You can quickly compute much it cost me out of pocket to create such a project. Take the annual figure there, multiply it by the 7.5 years I have been working on the project, and you will have roughly what I have put out of my pocket (and this doesn't count the cost of contributions from other people), then subtract 0.6 year of costs, which approximates the donations over the lifetime of the project. After doing the above, you should see that the issue here is not question of money, though as I have written it is a big motivator. The issue is that the project needs more programmers to do everything everyone wants. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ _______________________________________________ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
