On Tuesday 26 June 2007 11:41:18 Kern Sibbald wrote:
>
> The problem is not nearly as serious as it might appear from first sight. 
> I'm not trying to minimize it here, but the issues are:
>
> - Deleted files will re-appear.  They are not lost.  Generally them coming
> back is not a big problem, but for some particular applications it could be
> important so the sysadmin must be aware of this issue.
>
> - Files that are moved may or may not be lost.
>
> - If you simply copy the files then delete the old ones (a move), then they
> will be backed up normally and nothing will be lost.
>
> - If you move a whole directory, and that directory was saved prior to the
> move, nothing will be lost, but the directory will appear in the old
> location -- except for any files changed after the move, which will be
> properly restored.
>
> - If you move a whole directory using something like the mv command. That
> directory probably will not be backed up by the next Inc or Diff *unless*
> you modify it.
>
> - If you move a directory, and you "touch" it and its contents, all will
> work fine.
>
> Bottom line: unless you are moving files across filesystems that were not
> backed up, or installing new files, and preserving old dates, there is
> little likelyhood that anything will be lost.  However, there could be some
> admistrative problems.
Thank you for this very nice outline of the problems - I was not even aware 
there were so many potential pitfalls with this.

>
> If you are careful to touch everything that is "moved" the problem does not
> exist.  Granted this is not always very practical.
At least it is not very professional as you either have to instruct your users 
to remember to do some extra magic at specific times, which they can't 
remember and won't understand anyway - or you have to monitor them and do the 
touching yourself. There is some boundary crossing here from user to admin 
perspective that I think is not very proffesional -  I hope that this helps 
to raise the interest and the funds for this project - because I see this 
feature and the Bat as the last two features missing in order for Bacula to 
be a system capable of beeing used to deliver 100% professional services.
(Take is as a compliment - more so if it is true that there are not many 
others around!)


-- 
Regards

Steen

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