I've done some testing on my own Vista system, I posted previously, but
here's a short recap followed by the results after some tweaking.

1. Using my FileSet that I had defined for my XP system, my full backup
would end up over 300GB's, when the Vista drive only had 100GB's on it.

2. I'd see a bunch of errors such as:
Could not open directory C:/Documents and
Settings/joeshmo/AppData/Local/Application Data/Application Data/Application
Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application
Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application
Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application
Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application
Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application
Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application
Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application Data/History: ERR=The
name of the file cannot be resolved by the system.

3. I added the following to my FileSet definition for my Vista box to
exclude the junctions from the backup:
  Exclude {
  File = "C:/MSOCache"
  File = "C:/*.TMP"
  File = "C:/ProgramData/Application Data*"
  File = "C:/ProgramData/Desktop"
  File = "C:/ProgramData/Favorites"
  File = "C:/ProgramData/Start Menu"
  File = "C:/ProgramData/Templates"
  File = "C:/$*"
  File = "C:/Users/All Users"
  File = "C:/Users/Default User"
  File = "C:/Users/*/Application Data"
  File = "C:/Users/*/Cookies"
  File = "C:/Users/*/NetHood"
  File = "C:/Users/*/PrintHood"
  File = "C:/Users/*/Recent"
  File = "C:/Users/*/SendTo"
  File = "C:/Users/*/Start Menu"
  File = "C:/Users/*/Templates"
  File = "C:/Users/*/Local Settings"
  File = "C:/Users/*/My Documents"
  File = "C:/Documents and Settings"
  }

Results: After adding the exclusions for the junctions, my backup completed
and used up 56GB's worth of hard drive space (as opposed to over 300GB's
without the exclusions).

I'll attempt to restore some data from that backup tonight to see if
recovery functions, but at least the backups are now the size I would
expect.

I suppose the only downside of this is, if I restore, none of the junctions
will be recreated.

Mike

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Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 04:50
To: bacula-users
Cc: bacula-devel
Subject: [Bacula-users] Bacula and Windows Vista

Hello,

Recently, I bought a Windows Vista laptop ($$$ -- hint), so that I could
test 
the Bacula FD on it. First a few comments on Vista:

Good things (at least for users):
1. It has nice looking graphics
2. It has a lot of features
3. They sure are packing a lot of "3rd party" software into their kernel
    (e.g. virus checkers, disk repartitioners, encrypted folders,
    automatic file backup, ...).  I wouldn't want to be 
    an independent Windows utility software vendor.
4. You right click on many menu items to get a lot more functionality.
5. They have installed the software in a much more reasonable set of
    directory names (shorter and no spaces).  If I am not mistaken, most
    the old XP directory names are there too (sort of -- see below).


Not so good things:
1. It is pretty big pig -- it squats in 500MB of memory, uses about 60GB of
    disk, and it took over an hour to boot up the first time, and quite a
long
    time the second time; after defragging the disk, it boots in a
reasonable
    time.
2. Although the new directory structure has more reasonable directory names
   (shorter and no spaces), they have provided "junctions" to the old names
   for compatibility. Unfortunately few third party programs such
   as Bacula know about junctions, so they get confused, and typically
   this manifests itself as references to files/directories that do not seem
   to exist ...
3. VSS (Volume shadow copy) is not compatible with the older
    code used by Bacula.
4. System services can no longer interact with the desktop, which means that
    the Bacula tray monitor does not work.
5. There are a number new levels of security, which means that after
    installing Bacula,  you cannot edit the conf files without explicitly
    finding the right dialog and changing your permissions on the files.  
6. Due to junctions not being really downward compatible, the Bacula menu
    links to the conf files complain that the file does not exist.  By the
    way, junctions have been around for a while, but were apparently never
    used in a default install.  However, on Vista, there are a lot of
    junctions in the default install.
7. The new hard disk is 100GB the pre-loaded software uses 36GB.
8. Due to the need for swap space (2GB RAM) and snapshot space, the largest
   size available to load Linux along side of Vista is 28GB  -- i.e. as
   mentioned above, the system needs 60 GB of disk, and this is a virgin
   system (with the Bacula FD loaded).

So where are we with Bacula:
1. After 6 hours of upgrades to my WinXP system (62 SP1 updates, then SP 2,
   then install .NET Framework, then install Windows SDK, perhaps I will
have
   the new VSS code loaded, 
2.  *perhaps* as their documentation claims, it is now a simple recompile
with
   new header files (I doubt it very much).
3. Junctions are another story, and I have no idea how much work that is
   going to be.
4. Even if the new VSS works, it will only work on WinXP, Windows server
2003,
   and Vista, which means that in VSS mode, it is unlikely that the Bacula
FD
   will support older systems (Win98, WinMe, WinNT, ...) as it currently
does.
5. Time estimate: since I'm not getting paid for this: none.

Best regards,

Kern




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