Hell Mike,

You might try winbacula-2.1.21.exe that I uploaded this morning.  It *should* 
work with VSS enabled.  As I mentioned in my announcement, your exlusion 
lists clearly eliminate a lot of error or warning messages, but you might try 
not excluding those files as I believe that they will be backed up and 
restored correctly.  Anyway, all that must be confirmed.

Best regards,

Kern

On Thursday 21 June 2007 15:26, Mike Hanby wrote:
> I've done some testing on my own Vista system, I posted previously, but
> here's a short recap followed by the results after some tweaking.
> 
> 1. Using my FileSet that I had defined for my XP system, my full backup
> would end up over 300GB's, when the Vista drive only had 100GB's on it.
> 
> 2. I'd see a bunch of errors such as:
> Could not open directory C:/Documents and
> Settings/joeshmo/AppData/Local/Application Data/Application Data/Application
> Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application
> Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application
> Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application
> Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application
> Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application
> Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application
> Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application Data/History: ERR=The
> name of the file cannot be resolved by the system.
> 
> 3. I added the following to my FileSet definition for my Vista box to
> exclude the junctions from the backup:
>   Exclude {
>   File = "C:/MSOCache"
>   File = "C:/*.TMP"
>   File = "C:/ProgramData/Application Data*"
>   File = "C:/ProgramData/Desktop"
>   File = "C:/ProgramData/Favorites"
>   File = "C:/ProgramData/Start Menu"
>   File = "C:/ProgramData/Templates"
>   File = "C:/$*"
>   File = "C:/Users/All Users"
>   File = "C:/Users/Default User"
>   File = "C:/Users/*/Application Data"
>   File = "C:/Users/*/Cookies"
>   File = "C:/Users/*/NetHood"
>   File = "C:/Users/*/PrintHood"
>   File = "C:/Users/*/Recent"
>   File = "C:/Users/*/SendTo"
>   File = "C:/Users/*/Start Menu"
>   File = "C:/Users/*/Templates"
>   File = "C:/Users/*/Local Settings"
>   File = "C:/Users/*/My Documents"
>   File = "C:/Documents and Settings"
>   }
> 
> Results: After adding the exclusions for the junctions, my backup completed
> and used up 56GB's worth of hard drive space (as opposed to over 300GB's
> without the exclusions).
> 
> I'll attempt to restore some data from that backup tonight to see if
> recovery functions, but at least the backups are now the size I would
> expect.
> 
> I suppose the only downside of this is, if I restore, none of the junctions
> will be recreated.
> 
> Mike
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kern
> Sibbald
> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 04:50
> To: bacula-users
> Cc: bacula-devel
> Subject: [Bacula-users] Bacula and Windows Vista
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Recently, I bought a Windows Vista laptop ($$$ -- hint), so that I could
> test 
> the Bacula FD on it. First a few comments on Vista:
> 
> Good things (at least for users):
> 1. It has nice looking graphics
> 2. It has a lot of features
> 3. They sure are packing a lot of "3rd party" software into their kernel
>     (e.g. virus checkers, disk repartitioners, encrypted folders,
>     automatic file backup, ...).  I wouldn't want to be 
>     an independent Windows utility software vendor.
> 4. You right click on many menu items to get a lot more functionality.
> 5. They have installed the software in a much more reasonable set of
>     directory names (shorter and no spaces).  If I am not mistaken, most
>     the old XP directory names are there too (sort of -- see below).
> 
> 
> Not so good things:
> 1. It is pretty big pig -- it squats in 500MB of memory, uses about 60GB of
>     disk, and it took over an hour to boot up the first time, and quite a
> long
>     time the second time; after defragging the disk, it boots in a
> reasonable
>     time.
> 2. Although the new directory structure has more reasonable directory names
>    (shorter and no spaces), they have provided "junctions" to the old names
>    for compatibility. Unfortunately few third party programs such
>    as Bacula know about junctions, so they get confused, and typically
>    this manifests itself as references to files/directories that do not seem
>    to exist ...
> 3. VSS (Volume shadow copy) is not compatible with the older
>     code used by Bacula.
> 4. System services can no longer interact with the desktop, which means that
>     the Bacula tray monitor does not work.
> 5. There are a number new levels of security, which means that after
>     installing Bacula,  you cannot edit the conf files without explicitly
>     finding the right dialog and changing your permissions on the files.  
> 6. Due to junctions not being really downward compatible, the Bacula menu
>     links to the conf files complain that the file does not exist.  By the
>     way, junctions have been around for a while, but were apparently never
>     used in a default install.  However, on Vista, there are a lot of
>     junctions in the default install.
> 7. The new hard disk is 100GB the pre-loaded software uses 36GB.
> 8. Due to the need for swap space (2GB RAM) and snapshot space, the largest
>    size available to load Linux along side of Vista is 28GB  -- i.e. as
>    mentioned above, the system needs 60 GB of disk, and this is a virgin
>    system (with the Bacula FD loaded).
> 
> So where are we with Bacula:
> 1. After 6 hours of upgrades to my WinXP system (62 SP1 updates, then SP 2,
>    then install .NET Framework, then install Windows SDK, perhaps I will
> have
>    the new VSS code loaded, 
> 2.  *perhaps* as their documentation claims, it is now a simple recompile
> with
>    new header files (I doubt it very much).
> 3. Junctions are another story, and I have no idea how much work that is
>    going to be.
> 4. Even if the new VSS works, it will only work on WinXP, Windows server
> 2003,
>    and Vista, which means that in VSS mode, it is unlikely that the Bacula
> FD
>    will support older systems (Win98, WinMe, WinNT, ...) as it currently
> does.
> 5. Time estimate: since I'm not getting paid for this: none.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Kern
> 
> 
> 
> 
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