--On Freitag, 8. Dezember 2006 08:08 -0800 Robert Nelson 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Yet more disinformation, Microsoft hasn't released a desktop OS in more
> than 7 years that required FAT or even selected it as the default on new
> installations.

Wow, great more than seven years, you mean like 1999? I have no idea when 
Win Me was released exactly, but for sure it didn't support anything but 
FAT. NTFS and other reliable filesystems have been around for quite a while 
back then. This timebomb of a filesystem is still ticking on a lot of 
computers.

> Yes all Microsoft Operating Systems still support FAT as do all other
> Operating Systems.  Otherwise it would be very hard to get your photos off
> the compact flash cards, etc.

Yes, even worse. Just as I sad this archaic fs is still being used. And I 
can hear people whining because they lost their data on CF, usb-thumbs and 
the like because FAT32 is used for them by default. If you pull a ufs2 
formatted drive which is being written to for example, you might loose some 
files, but it is very unlikely to loose the entire tree, in contrast to 
FAT. With soft-updates enabled you probably won't loose anything at all, 
except the inodes which have actually been written to. I'm not sure about 
NTFS as I have never used it on removable drives, but I guess it is able to 
handle an unexpected unmount gracefully too.

> As for your proverbial "casual user", let's use a car as an example.
>
> Someone is driving down the street and the engine starts making a funny
> noise.  Does he take it to a mechanic; no he continues to drive it.  Now
> the warning lights are starting to come on in the dash, is it time to
> seek help? Nope he keeps driving.  Finally the car stops running, must be
> that d*mn Ford engine.
>
> Finally, regarding my other comment to which you seemed to have taken
> By your own admission you've said you don't understand the internals of
> filesystems, you don't know what chkdsk does, and you don't know about the
> various tools available for fixing corrupted drives.

Oh yes, I do know quite a bit about filesystems. But I don't usually bother 
myself with FAT and blame other people for not doing so.
Therefore I have never been in the situation of having to resort to 
esotheric recovery utilities, offered by companies profiting from users, 
who don't know to what tipsy filesystems they entrust their data to.
And for your car example: A car inspection doesn't usually cost thousands 
of dollars. A data recovery by a professional company will. So I guess it's 
wise to turn to a friend who knows to handle the situation instead of 
tampering around. Admitted booting windows with the drive attached was a 
bit naive, but I didn't intend to shredder the disk with chkdsk. Merely I 
was trying to create an image to conserve the data on the disk. 
Unfortunately, as I explained, windows knew better.

Now please stop bugging me with your "I'm the greatest geek in town"-gossip 
and go play flame-war somewere else.

Thanks to the others for their constructive comments.

Regards,
Georg

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