Yet more disinformation, Microsoft hasn't released a desktop OS in more than 7 years that required FAT or even selected it as the default on new installations.
Yes all Microsoft Operating Systems still support FAT as do all other Operating Systems. Otherwise it would be very hard to get your photos off the compact flash cards, etc. As for your proverbial "casual user", let's use a car as an example. Someone is driving down the street and the engine starts making a funny noise. Does he take it to a mechanic; no he continues to drive it. Now the warning lights are starting to come on in the dash, is it time to seek help? Nope he keeps driving. Finally the car stops running, must be that d*mn Ford engine. Finally, regarding my other comment to which you seemed to have taken offense, continuing with the car analogy, does the user seek the advice of the mechanic? Nope he goes and asks his friend, who also drives a car, if he can fix it. By your own admission you've said you don't understand the internals of filesystems, you don't know what chkdsk does, and you don't know about the various tools available for fixing corrupted drives. Therefore, offended or not, I stand by my original comment. If you have a problem take it to someone that knows what they're doing. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Georg Altmann Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 7:40 AM To: bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net Cc: Robert Nelson Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Off-topic: FAT32 disaster recovery --On Freitag, 8. Dezember 2006 06:50 -0800 Robert Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yep Microsoft is so obviously at fault here. First of all they designed > FAT in the late 70s. Shame on them for using a filesystem design similar > to all the other systems at the time. Then to top it off they have the > audacity to try and repair it when the user boots the system with a drive > attached which is corrupted. > > UNIX is such a better system. Let's see what does it do in a similar > situation? Well fsck notices the drive needs repair, finds all these file > fragments that are listed as allocated but not attached to any directory. > Gee it makes up names for them and puts them in the lost+found directory. > > Gee seems like exactly the same thing to me. Ok, this wasn't about starting a flame-war on Windows vs. Mac/UNIX/whatever, FAT vs. ext2/ufs/whatever, pointing fingers or anything. So please calm down. Anyway, linux/freebsd doesn't mount a filesystem until you explicitly tell it to do so and it only runs fsck on filesystems in /etc/fstab. FreeBSD even stops the fsck run if it finds something serious and waits for manual intervention. Mordern filesystems (ntfs, ufs, ext2fs,...) are much more stable. And many of them have been available at the beginning of the nineties. MS in contrast happily continued to use FAT in all its OSes despite of its known problems. And now you still find disks in the range of multiple hundert GBs using a filesystem which wasn't designed for disks of this size. Problem is you almost have no choice, because it is in fact the only fs that is support on all platforms. Linux is coming up with some experimental NTFS support, though I wouldn't want to use that for critical data yet... > > The only real lessons to be learned here is. If your drive has a problem > don't continue to use it without fixing the problem. Explain that to the casual computer user... > Don't use an OS that > caches data on removable drives (Windows doesn't MAC OS apparently does). > Don't use an OS that mounts a drive that hasn't been closed properly > (another MAC deficiency versus Windows). Finally don't give your drive to > someone that doesn't know what they're talking about to have it fixed. Finally please stop making personal offenses. Thank you. Regards, Georg ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV _______________________________________________ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV _______________________________________________ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
