Thanks! I'm only running fd on the OS X systems. But, I'm on my way to the website.
On Mon, 2006-11-13 at 08:26 -0600, Erich Prinz wrote: > Don, > > You can start by looking at Mike Bombich's site: > > http://www.bombich.com/software/ccc.html > > He's an Apple systems engineer at in their education division that's > done a ton of work putting together sys admin tool sets. The link is > to a tool that allows you to create a bootable DVD of the specific > machine you'd like to clone/recover. Please note these are not Apple > supported tools! > > More advanced options include System Image which is included with OS > X Server and is part of an overall deployment/management suite for > desktops/laptops running OS X. > > It really depends on your environment which tool set you need. > > I've not done this, however, it would seem to me an install of bacula > with dir, sd, and fd correctly setup and running prior to building > out the bootable DVD would yield a recovery DVD. How to deal with the > Catalog and the Database is beyond me. Maybe that could be built in > as part of the recovery DVD, the image restored to the local HDD from > DVD, boot to HDD, re-read the latest backup volumes, and a final > restore of user data. > > Non-Apple standard changes to the System done after the DVD creation > would be lost unless explicitly added to the backup jobs. > > Hope this is a good nudge in the right direction for you. > > Erich > > > > On Nov 10, 2006, at 6:40 AM, Kern Sibbald wrote: > > > On Thursday 09 November 2006 17:50, Don MacArthur wrote: > >> 1. > >> The 'nix restore process is working. My process is as discussed > >> earlier, install a base system with bacula and restore everything > >> except > >> - /sys /proc *and* /boot. I learned quite a bit about getting the > >> drive > >> configuration right, but I successfully restored a working RH server. > > > > If there are any tips for the manual, please do write them down and > > send them > > in ... > > > >> > >> 2. > >> I'm still interested in testing the new recovery cd solution when > >> Kern > >> returns. > > > > Ah, I would very much like to have someone test this. I'll put > > some finishing > > touches on it this weekend and let you know. > > > >> > >> 3. > >> Now, I'm trying to conquer OSX 10.4... I saw a couple of posts here, > >> but it doesn't look like anyone's *actually* done it by restoring the > >> system. I don't mind figuring it out, but if you can give me a > >> push in > >> the right direction or keep me from repeating your mistakes I'd > >> appreciate the time saved. > >> > >> Almost everything I've read says to use imaging or reinstall > >> everything > >> and restore only the data. The bootcd solutions I found are not for > >> <10.4 or based on creating a bootcd from the OS installation disk. > >> There > >> are a couple of commercial products, but my goal is a one-stop > >> solution > >> that a backup expert can use without being an OSX expert, too. That > >> said... > >> > >> Should I try doing it the same as for 'nix, but using the above- > >> mentioned bootcd? Is BSD significantly different (all my 'nix are > >> RH or > >> CentOS), and if it is should I start with that process? I do > >> actually > >> work on these systems, but mostly remote and on the command line. > > > > Well, I cannot really answer this question because I don't know > > enough about > > either BSD or OS X. However, in general, you need some code that > > will setup > > a bootable CD (or USB or other thing) so that you can boot without > > using your > > disk image. Then you need to be able to repair/reformat, ... your > > hard disks > > depending on the situation -- that is what most of the Bacula > > rescue code > > does. It saves the state of the system and reformats it in a series of > > relatively easy to use scripts. In addition, you need a statically > > linked > > copy of the FD and its conf file on the CD so that you can restore > > the data > > files. And finally, you need some way to restore the boot sector > > (typically > > grub on most newer Linux machines). > > > >> > >> TIA for any/everything. > >> > >> Don. > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Thanks for the education. I knew about /proc, but /sys is news to > >> me. > >> > >> Again, many thanks. > >> > >> Don. > >> > >> On Wed, 2006-09-13 at 10:49 +0200, Kern Sibbald wrote: > >>> On Wednesday 13 September 2006 06:09, MacArthur, Don wrote: > >>>> Hi to all! > >>>> > >>>> I took the advice about loading a minimal OS config and then > >>>> restoring > > from > >>> backup. I have another issue that may or may not be related to the > >>> restore... > >>>> > >>>> I used "restore all" from the console, with files being replaced > >>>> always > > and > >>> the "where" set to "/". However, after entering the "/" for the > >>> where > > parm > >>> the field appeared blank. > >>> > >>> Yes, blank is the same thing as /. > >>> > >>>> No matter, or so I thought. Near the end of the restore process > >>>> as it > > is > >>> trying to restore the sys/dev folder (some of which can't be > >>> restored > > because > >>> it's in use) the server ceases to communicate. No ping, not bacula > > client > >>> response... > >>> > >>> Well, you should not be trying to restore /sys or /proc. If you > >>> have > > backed > >>> them up, then you will need to exclude them from the restore. > >>> These are > >>> "virtual" directories created by the OS, and writing into them could > > cause > >>> lots of damage. > >>> > >>>> > >>>> I rebooted the server and after loading vmlinuz... > >>> > >>> If you rebooted the server without completing the restore, there is > > little > >>> chance it will boot up. > >>> > >>> What does "loading vmlinuz..." mean? If you did not restore > >>> everything > >>> in /boot AND if you did not rewrite the boot sector with grub (or > > possibly > >>> lilo), there is no chance that your system will boot. > >>> > >>> > >>>> I get an error saying that it can't find the root ("/") folder, and > > then the > >>> kernel panics. > >>> > >>> > >>>> > >>>> I'm thinking that there are some folders that I should know to > >>>> exclude > > from > >>> the restore, but don't have the experience to know about. I'm > >>> trying to > >>> follow the docs (not a complaint, just want you to know I'm not > >>> lazy), > > but I > >>> don't see anything different from what I'm doing. > >>> > >>> They are actually directories that you should exclude from the > >>> backup, > > and > >>> there are several places in the doc that show examples. However, > >>> it is > > true, > >>> you sort of have to "know" as it may not be as explicitly stated > >>> as it > > should > >>> be -- I'll look at the document in the near future. > >>> > >>> If you have specified directories or filesystems such as /proc > >>> and /sys > > in > >>> your backup, then you can still do a restore, but you will need to > > explicitly > >>> exclude them. > >>> > >>>> > >>>> Links to mail list threads and/or documentation are welcome - I'm > > willing to > >>> do my homework, I just need a nudge or a shove in the right > >>> direction - > > as > >>> are outright answers. > >>>> > >>>> Again, I appreciate the features and quality of bacula, you guys > >>>> are > > great. > >>>> > >>>> Don. > >>>> > >>>> PS. I'm willing to do some beta testing as Kern requested, but I'm > > booked > >>> through mid-October. If it's still needed at that time I'll be > >>> happy to > >>> help. > >>> > >>> Well, hopefully, I will have the new rescue working the way I > >>> want in > > another > >>> day or two, and then documented within the next week. You will > >>> be free > > to > >>> try it in mid-October, and by then it should be working at least > >>> for SuSE > >>> 10.1 systems, which is what I am running, but I will be on > >>> vacation (a > > real > >>> vacation this time) from mid-October to mid-November. > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> > >>> Kern > >>> > >>> > >>>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Arno Lehmann > >>>> Sent: Tue 9/12/2006 12:54 AM > >>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>> Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Rescue cd create/make problem > >>>> > >>>> Hi, > >>>> > >>>> On 9/12/2006 1:39 AM, Don MacArthur wrote: > >>>>> Sorry to be so chatty- > >>>>> > >>>>> "Failure": when I eject the bacula boot cd, restart the server, > >>>>> after > >>>>> the POST when (I'm guessing) it tries to read from the drives I'm > >>>>> presented with a blank screen and a blinking underscore cursor > >>>>> in the > >>>>> upper left corner of the display. > >>>> > >>>> Hmm. Which rscue CD? The one from the Bacula project? That, > >>>> AFAIK, was > >>>> always rather limited. > >>>> > >>>> IIRC, Kern started integrating Bacula into something else which > >>>> name I > >>>> forgot (of course...) but a search in the list archives and > >>>> possibly > >>>> through the ReleaseNotes might find something... ah, not what I was > >>>> thinking of, but look here: http://rescuecd.pld-linux.org/ > >>>> > >>>>> Going to plan "b"; load the OS and bacula from scratch, and > >>>>> restore > > from > >>>>> there. > >>>> > >>>> That should work - it's more difficult with windows, but I > >>>> understand > >>>> you've got your windows recovery routine proven already. (BartPE?) > >>>> > >>>>> I've seen no response to my posts, so don't be shy. Or, if you > >>>>> know > > of > >>>>> someone who might have some ideas please ask them to review the > > posts. > >>>> > >>>> Ideas... you're welcome. By the way, for windows I use BartPE for > > rescue > >>>> purposes, for linux I prefer doing a minimal system install from > >>>> the > >>>> distribution media (which allows me to change the disk /filesystem > >>>> layout using a GUI, which is needed from time to time, and once the > >>>> machine is down you can as well do some maintenance work :-) , add > >>>> bacula-fd + configuration to it and recover from there. > >>>> > >>>> A completely static FD seems to be somewhat difficult, so in > >>>> case of > >>>> problems I even install gcc/g++, the necessary development > >>>> packages, > > and > >>>> compile Bacula - I found this to be more flexible than fighting > >>>> with a > >>>> pre-compiled binary and its requirements. Usually, though, the > >>>> pre-compiled FD works without problems. > >>>> > >>>> I never actually tried to prepare a "universal" linux Bacula > >>>> rescue CD > >>>> because I found it much too complicated handling all necessary > >>>> ATA/SATA/Chipset modules, filesystem types, LVM1 / LVM2 issues, > >>>> network > >>>> setups (rather the simplest part, though) combinations I encounter. > >>>> > >>>> Arno > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> ---- > >> Using Tomcat but need to do more? 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