Thanks for the education.  I knew about /proc, but /sys is news to me.  

Again, many thanks.

Don.

On Wed, 2006-09-13 at 10:49 +0200, Kern Sibbald wrote:
> On Wednesday 13 September 2006 06:09, MacArthur, Don wrote:
> > Hi to all!
> > 
> > I took the advice about loading a minimal OS config and then restoring from 
> backup.  I have another issue that may or may not be related to the 
> restore...
> > 
> > I used "restore all" from the console, with files being replaced always and 
> the "where" set to "/".  However, after entering the "/" for the where parm 
> the field appeared blank. 
> 
> Yes, blank is the same thing as /.
> 
> > No matter, or so I thought.  Near the end of the restore process as it is 
> trying to restore the sys/dev folder (some of which can't be restored because 
> it's in use) the server ceases to communicate.  No ping, not bacula client 
> response... 
> 
> Well, you should not be trying to restore /sys or /proc.  If you have backed 
> them up, then you will need to exclude them from the restore. These are 
> "virtual" directories created by the OS, and writing into them could cause 
> lots of damage.
> 
> > 
> > I rebooted the server and after loading vmlinuz... 
> 
> If you rebooted the server without completing the restore, there is little 
> chance it will boot up.
> 
> What does "loading vmlinuz..." mean?  If you did not restore everything 
> in /boot AND if you did not rewrite the boot sector with grub (or possibly 
> lilo), there is no chance that your system will boot.
> 
> 
> > I get an error saying that it can't find the root ("/") folder, and then 
> > the 
> kernel panics.   
> 
> 
> > 
> > I'm thinking that there are some folders that I should know to exclude from 
> the restore, but don't have the experience to know about.  I'm trying to 
> follow the docs (not a complaint, just want you to know I'm not lazy), but I 
> don't see anything different from what I'm doing.  
> 
> They are actually directories that you should exclude from the backup, and 
> there are several places in the doc that show examples.  However, it is true, 
> you sort of have to "know" as it may not be as explicitly stated as it should 
> be -- I'll look at the document in the near future.
> 
> If you have specified directories or filesystems such as /proc and /sys in 
> your backup, then you can still do a restore, but you will need to explicitly 
> exclude them.
> 
> > 
> > Links to mail list threads and/or documentation are welcome - I'm willing 
> > to 
> do my homework, I just need a nudge or a shove in the right direction - as 
> are outright answers.  
> > 
> > Again, I appreciate the features and quality of bacula, you guys are great.
> > 
> > Don.
> > 
> > PS. I'm willing to do some beta testing as Kern requested, but I'm booked 
> through mid-October.  If it's still needed at that time I'll be happy to 
> help.
> 
> Well, hopefully, I will have the new rescue working the way I want in another 
> day or two, and then documented within the next week.  You will be free to 
> try it in mid-October, and by then it should be working at least for SuSE 
> 10.1 systems, which is what I am running, but I will be on vacation (a real 
> vacation this time) from mid-October to mid-November.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Kern
> 
> 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Arno Lehmann
> > Sent: Tue 9/12/2006 12:54 AM
> > To: bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Rescue cd create/make problem
> >  
> > Hi,
> > 
> > On 9/12/2006 1:39 AM, Don MacArthur wrote:
> > > Sorry to be so chatty-
> > > 
> > > "Failure": when I eject the bacula boot cd, restart the server, after
> > > the POST when (I'm guessing) it tries to read from the drives I'm
> > > presented with a blank screen and a blinking underscore cursor in the
> > > upper left corner of the display.  
> > 
> > Hmm. Which rscue CD? The one from the Bacula project? That, AFAIK, was 
> > always rather limited.
> > 
> > IIRC, Kern started integrating Bacula into something else which name I 
> > forgot (of course...) but a search in the list archives and possibly 
> > through the ReleaseNotes might find something... ah, not what I was 
> > thinking of, but look here: http://rescuecd.pld-linux.org/
> > 
> > > Going to plan "b"; load the OS and bacula from scratch, and restore from
> > > there.  
> > 
> > That should work - it's more difficult with windows, but I understand 
> > you've got your windows recovery routine proven already. (BartPE?)
> > 
> > > I've seen no response to my posts, so don't be shy.  Or, if you know of
> > > someone who might have some ideas please ask them to review the posts.  
> > 
> > Ideas... you're welcome. By the way, for windows I use BartPE for rescue 
> > purposes, for linux I prefer doing a minimal system install from the 
> > distribution media (which allows me to change the disk /filesystem 
> > layout using a GUI, which is needed from time to time, and once the 
> > machine is down you can as well do some maintenance work :-) , add 
> > bacula-fd + configuration to it and recover from there.
> > 
> > A completely static FD seems to be somewhat difficult, so in case of 
> > problems I even install gcc/g++, the necessary development packages, and 
> > compile Bacula - I found this to be more flexible than fighting with a 
> > pre-compiled binary and its requirements. Usually, though, the 
> > pre-compiled FD works without problems.
> > 
> > I never actually tried to prepare a "universal" linux Bacula rescue CD 
> > because I found it much too complicated handling all necessary 
> > ATA/SATA/Chipset modules, filesystem types, LVM1 / LVM2 issues, network 
> > setups (rather the simplest part, though) combinations I encounter.
> > 
> > Arno
> > 
> > > Again, TIA.
> > > 
> > > On Mon, 2006-09-11 at 15:22 -0600, Don MacArthur wrote:
> > > 
> > >>I just got my second failure to recover.  This isn't a production
> > >>server, but I need to know this'll work when I need it.  
> > >>
> > >>If you have done a bare-metal recovery using the rescue disk, I would
> > >>appreciate feedback on how it went, and what challenges were
> > >>experienced. 
> > >>
> > >>Thanks.
> > >>
> > >>On Mon, 2006-09-11 at 09:52 -0600, Don MacArthur wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>Also, I get the following errors during the make all...
> > >>>
> > >>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > >>>Begin making LVM formatting script(s) ...
> > >>>Done building scripts.
> > >>>./make_rescue_disk
> > >>>if test ! x"/usr/sbin" = x ; then \
> > >>>   ./copy_static_bacula "/usr/sbin"/static-bacula-fd "/usr/sbin"/bacula-
> > >>>fd.conf ; \
> > >>>elif test ! -f ../rpm_release ; then \
> > >>>   ./make_static_bacula /root/bacula-1.38.11 ; \
> > >>>fi
> > >>>cp: cannot create regular file `bin/bacula-fd': No such file or
> > >>>directory
> > >>>Warning!!! /usr/sbin/static-bacula-fd not found. !!!
> > >>>cp: cannot stat `/usr/sbin/bacula-fd.conf': No such file or directory
> > >>>Warning!!! /usr/sbin/bacula-fd.conf not found. !!!
> > >>>./copy_to_roottree
> > >>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > >>>
> > >>>Again, TIA.
> > >>>
> > >>>On Mon, 2006-09-11 at 08:27 -0600, Don MacArthur wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>>First, thanks to so many who have contributed to creating a robust and
> > >>>>elegant backup solution.  It is the only one I could find that has
> > >>>>enterprise-class features, and backs up all my OS's (Win, Lin, OS X). 
> > >>>>
> > >>>>rh: es4 2.6.9.42.0.2.el
> > >>>>rescue: 1.8.6
> > >>>>bacula: 1.38.11
> > >>>>both sources located under /root
> > >>>>
> > >>>>My task is to prove the restore process.  I'm trying to use the boot cd.
> > >>>>If I should switch to something else that is better, please point me in
> > >>>>the right direction.  My windows restore process went very well, no
> > >>>>hitches.  I'm working on my Linux servers, and OS X is next.  
> > >>>>
> > >>>>I've run through the process a couple of times and assume some error on
> > >>>>my part is the cause of the problem.  
> > >>>>
> > >>>>I've tried it with and without bacula-fd ./configured as static.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>In my first attempt I compiled non-static:
> > >>>>1. start-network failed because the mask was 255.0.0.0 on a 192.168
> > >>>>network, and no gateway.  
> > >>>>2. there was no bacula-fd.conf anywhere after booting.  To determine
> > >>>>this, from / I ran ls -Rl|grep bacula-fd.  
> > >>>>3. hard drive partition didn't in that the last partition created
> > >>>>exceeded the available space on the disk.  
> > >>>>
> > >>>>I recompiled the fd from /root/bacula-1.38.11/ with:
> > >>>>./configure --bindir=/usr/bin --sbindir=/usr/sbin --enable-static-fd --
> > >>>>enable-client-only
> > >>>>
> > >>>>"make all" created an image that used the bacula-fd.conf from the
> > >>>>bacula-1.38.11/src folder, instead of the one from /etc/bacula.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Booting this cd and running start-network again set a network config
> > >>>>with the wrong mask, and no gateway.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>So, before I spend another few days trying to patch this, can anyone see
> > >>>>what I'm doing wrong?
> > >>>>
> > >>>>TIA,
> > >>>>Don.
> > >>>>
> > 
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