On Monday 04 September 2006 15:36, Uwe Schuerkamp wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 01, 2006 at 11:09:16PM +0200, Kern Sibbald wrote:
> > From: Kern Sibbald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Cc: Arno Lehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 23:09:16 +0200
> > Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Prevent bacula from requesting volumes *not* 
in
> >     changer
> > 
> > On Friday 01 September 2006 22:15, Arno Lehmann wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > On 9/1/2006 1:40 PM, Uwe Schuerkamp wrote:
> > > > Hi folks,
> > > > 
> > > > I was wondering about the best way to tell bacula that volumes not
> > > > present in the changer are not to be recycled / used to avoid operator
> > > > intervention. We store some tapes (usually 3 out of 8) off-site, but
> > > > those volume records will remain in the database, so when the time
> > > > comes for bacula to use a new volume when all are full, it should
> > > > recycle the oldest volume *in the changer*, not in the volume pool
> > > > which quite likely is stored miles away.
> > > 
> > > The best thing to do is to wait some time... because I'm (slowly) 
> > > working on an add-on to bacula to manage volume locations. An important 
> > > part in this is to disable volumes but still keep the catalog data 
intact.
> > > 
> > > Sounds like just what you want.
> > > 
> > > The necessary catalog extensions are prepared for version 1.40, they do 
> > > exist in the catalog schema introduced somewhere during the ongoing 
> > > development of 1.39.
> > > 
> > > I expect a release of 1.40 in rather short time - weeks, not months - 
> > > but that's obviously mainly something Kern has to decide.
> > > 
> > >  From my experience running 1.39.20 for some days now I consider it 
> > > stable enough for my setup.
> > > 
> > > There's currently nothing I can release concerning the volume location 
> > > management, because it needs some major rewrite after the catalog 
> > > changes, but I hope to produce something I can share in the next few 
weeks.
> > 
> > By the way, Arno, media Enable/disable is implemented.  It also has an 
> > "archive" state where volumes will not be pruned, but I haven't 
implemented 
> > that feature yet.
> > 
> > > 
> > > Hope this helps,
> > > 
> > > Arno
> > > 
> > > > Would I need to define a "maximum number of volumes" setting in the
> > > > pool to accomplish this? Here's the pool definition: 
> > > > 
> > > > Pool {
> > > >   Name = Default
> > > >   Recycle Oldest Volume = yes
> > > >   Pool Type = Backup
> > > >   Recycle = yes 
> > > >   AutoPrune = yes                     # Prune expired volumes
> > > >   Volume Retention = 6 months
> > > >   Accept Any Volume = yes             # write on any volume in the
> > > >   pool
> > > > }
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks in advance for your help, 
> > > > 
> > > > Uwe 
> > > > 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I have now set the volume status to "archived" on those volumes that
> are no longer in the changer. Now bacula uses the in-changer volumes
> even if they're "younger" than those that have been removed from the
> changer. Once it needs a new volume, it prunes an old one. Sounds
> about right, doesn't it? 
> 
> However, pruning a volume takes bacula far too long than I'd like
> to. We have approx. 500GB data per volume (8-way Ultrium HP changer)
> from > 10 backup clients, and when pruning starts, bacula just sits
> there for nearly a day repeating its "pruning volume xxx" messages ad
> nauseam. 
> 
> I've found that when I purge the volume manually and then set the
> recycle flag, everything works as expected, but I really don't want to
> constantly check wether bacula has enough volumes available to
> complete the next backup (that's not exactly "automation", right? ;-) 
> Purging takes about 3 minutes per volume as opposed to over a day for
> pruning one. 
> 
> The server is only a lowly 1GHz Intel running mysql on Debian with 2GB
> RAM (database size varies around 8 GB), but still I would not expect
> pruning a single volume to take this long.
> 
> It would be great if somebody could shed some light on this.

I see you have sent this email to me.  

My answer is that I cannot shed any light on your problem (I do see that you 
are having a problem), because you haven't provided enough information. 
Please see the Bacula web site -- in particular the Support page or perhaps 
the Bug page (I'm *not* suggesting you submit a bug report) for the kind of 
information needed to *begin* to analyze a problem.

Regards,

Kern

> 
> All the best, uwe 
> 
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