On Wednesday 29 March 2006 21:50, Ryan Novosielski wrote:
> Kubuntu is far from a total disaster, and in fact is the only
> distribution that I feel has got it right. As for the root situation, as
> a software author and someone who tells people to RTFM on a regular
> basis, I'm really kind of surpirsed. Did you not check the FAQ? From the
> afforementioned site:
>
> ---
> What is the default root password?
>
> There is no root password set as default. If KDE needs administrator
> privileges you should use your user password instead. 

That I did see and read before complaining.

> You can also edit 
> files as root from Konqueror with right click -> Actions -> Edit as
> Root. See Root Sudo wiki page <http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo>.

That I didn't notice. In any case, it is too complicated and abstract for me 
to think about using Konqueror. Every machine I have used has always had some 
way to get logged in as root, Administator, or a host of other privileged 
names.

> ---
>
>
> There is really no reason to use root all the time like many [lazy]
> people (myself included) commonly do. root commands require root, and
> non root commands should really not habitually be run as root as you're
> eventually asking for it (who hasn't hit the enter key by mistake before?).

I rarely use root.

>
> As far as sudo goes, one only need type 'sudo -s' (man sudo) to get a
> root shell, and enter their password.

sudo is something I try to avoid even more than using root since it permits 
having an icon on the desktop which when clicked can do anything.  I think 
sudo is fine and necessary for some tasks, but I prefer to have all my 
privileged operations done explicitly ...

>
> C'mon, Kern. ;)
>
> Kern Sibbald wrote:
> >On Wednesday 29 March 2006 10:15, Mikael Kermorgant wrote:
> >...
> >
> >>If you're running debian 3.1 and want up to date programs, I'd recommend
> >>upgrading to debian "testing". It will still lack a bit behind but you
> >>won't have to wait for debian 3.2 to get upgrades. On the other hand, I'd
> >>guess most debian servers are running 3.1.
> >>Maybe having a look at kubuntu would also be interesting if you're
> >>interested in modern desktop. KDE 3.5.2 is already packaged for "breezy".
> >
> >Thanks for the tip.
> >
> >Unfortunately, as far as I am concerned kubuntu is a total disaster. I
> >downloaded their latest version 5.10 (if I remember right), burned a CD, 
> > did the installation, and ended up with a running system with no root
> > password -- that is a totally useless system for doing any kind of system
> > administration or maintenance.
> >
> >I then searched their bugzilla and noticed a lot of users complaining
> > about no root password and some text indicating that the normal user
> > might be the administrator -- well, I checked it, no go, my personal
> > account (kern) doesn't have administration privileges.  OK, attempt to
> > create a bugzilla account, and it takes me off to "Launcher" to create an
> > account. I just wanted to file a bug report not figure out what the
> > Launcher service is, so I gave up at that point -- too many obstacles.

-- 
Best regards,

Kern

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