Kern Sibbald wrote:

>On Thursday 04 August 2005 21:36, Martin Simmons wrote:
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>
>>>>>>>On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 23:16:08 +0200, Kern Sibbald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>said:
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>  Kern> On Tuesday 02 August 2005 19:31, Martin Simmons wrote:
>>  >> >>>>> On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 13:43:16 +0200, Kern Sibbald
>>  >> >>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>>
>>  Kern> On Tuesday 02 August 2005 13:16, Martin Simmons wrote:
>>  >> >> >>>>> On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 10:37:20 +0200, Rico
>>  >> >> >>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>>
>>  Rico> it failed again. the admin job was ok. the volume was pruned and
>>  Rico> recycled but "thepig"-job failed.
>>
>>  >> >> The output looks normal to me, except for when the sd says "Cannot
>>  >> >> find any appendable volumes."  This could be a bug, so I suggest
>>  >> >> you report it at http://bugs.bacula.org/ including the latest
>>  >> >> console output.
>>
>>  Kern> I would suggest distilling the problem down to the very essence.
>>
>>  >> From what I Kern> saw (briefly) in the emails exchanged, I would have
>>  >> a hard time figuring out Kern> what is not working correctly.
>>  >>
>>  >> I think this is the pertinent bit of the output.  How can
>>  >> pe2800oracle-sd run between the Pruned and Recycled messages?
>>  >>
>>  >> 01-Aug 22:03 pe2800oracle-dir: Start Backup JobId 487,
>>  >> Job=thepig.2005-08-01_20.00.01 01-Aug 22:13 pe2800oracle-dir: Pruned 5
>>  >> Jobs on Volume "montag2" from catalog. 01-Aug 22:13 pe2800oracle-sd:
>>  >> Job thepig.2005-08-01_20.00.01 waiting. Cannot find any appendable
>>  >> volumes. Please use the "label"  command to create a new Volume for:
>>  >> Storage:      LTO Ultrium 2
>>  >> Media type:   LTO-G2
>>  >> Pool:         Default
>>  >> 01-Aug 23:13 pe2800oracle-dir: Recycled volume "montag2"
>>  >>
>>  >> __Martin
>>
>>  Kern> Well, I don't see anything running between messages, and I'm unsure
>>what you Kern> mean. If you are trying to tie sequences of messages to
>>their display order Kern> when they come from different daemons via the
>>network and different threads Kern> and do not have thousandths of seconds
>>in the time stamp, good luck.
>>
>>Yes, it was the display order.  In particular, I thought that the "Pruned 5
>>Jobs" and "Recycled volume" Director messages were both emited inside the
>>Find_media request from the SD.  During this time, the SD should be waiting
>>so I was surprised that the SD's "Cannot find any appendable volumes."
>>message came before the "Recycled volume" message.
>>
>>Someone else posted this sequence:
>>
>>04-Aug 01:02 hunter-dir: Pruned 8 Jobs on Volume "D03" from catalog.
>>04-Aug 01:02 hunter-dir: Pruned 1 Job on Volume "D04" from catalog.
>>04-Aug 01:02 hunter-sd: Job std-arapaho.2005-08-04_01.00.00 waiting.
>>Cannot find any appendable volumes.
>>Please use the "label"  command to create a new Volume for:
>>    Storage:      HP_DAT72
>>    Media type:   DDS-72
>>    Pool:         Daily
>>04-Aug 01:03 hunter-dir: Recycled volume "D03"
>>
>>which shows it too.
>>    
>>
>
>I'm not sure what is going on here, except that one cannot count on the order 
>of the messages being chronological.  I haven't thought a lot about this, but 
>I can imagine that if one is running on the "hairy edge" of not having enough 
>volumes (or conversely having your pruning times too long), I'm not surprised 
>there are problems.  I wouldn't be surprised if there is a bug lurking in the 
>code, but I can say that I have been running the setup described in one of 
>the chapters of the manual for well over a year, and it prunes volumes 
>regularly as it should, so there is always one or two pruned volumes when 
>they are needed without relying on pruning during the search for a Volume.
>
>  
>
>>__Martin
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>>
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>  
>
Kern,
Just for information :  pruning a volume, like D04, take about  1 (big)
minute to be done. (Bacula 1.36.2 sarge + sqlite)


Rico,
I saw that an Admin job run Autoprune so I think that I can use an Admin
job as a workaround like this :

# other jobs use the same schedule an have a priority on 10
# I have no concurrent job
Job {
  Name = force_pruning
  JobDefs = DefaultJob
  Type = Admin
  Client = hunter-fd
  FileSet= default
  Schedule = "ServerMonthlyCycle"
  Priority = 9
}

I will try it for this WE.

Have a nice day :o)

  Loïs


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