On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 11:17 -0500, Conscious User wrote: > > Jason, while we're at this subject, could you please tell if Unity is > going to > follow the WM_CLASS "emergency fallback" that Docky currently uses?
I can't remember if I implemented that or not yet. I know docky has a fairly advanced heuristic for picking out unknown icons. I'll probably side port it sometime this cycle. > > > Since Unity is going to use those big icons, I'm particularly worried > whether it will always ensure overriding small icons with large enough > ones, > even when the window is not directly associated to a .desktop file. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jason Smith <jason.sm...@canonical.com> > To: Martín "A. Casco" <martinca...@gmail.com> > Cc: ayatana <ayatana@lists.launchpad.net> > Sent: Sun, Dec 5, 2010 7:05 pm > Subject: Re: [Ayatana] Launcher' icons size to big > > On Sun, 2010-12-05 at 21:47 -0300, Martín A. Casco wrote: > > I understand your point. But just an example, since I use Ubuntu (from > > Hardy), I always used AWN and 32 x 32 pixels for icon's launchers and > > never have fuzzy problems... Even with Cairo and Docky. > > I wrote docky, trust me, it happens :) > > > > > But, if we use 52 x 52 small screens will loose to much space on > > launcher, and auto-hide can't be the solutions, for many users like > > me, auto-hide is not used.. > > Compared to the old launcher you lose an extra 2-4 pixels horizontally. > I understand then point about horizontal space. I believe a better > hiding mode may be useful for you. I hope to have intellihide ready > soon. > > > > > Even more, with 52 x 52 icon's size, we can't add more apps to the > > launcher, I know the option arrange icons when we have a lot of apps > > on launcher or to many apps open, but this option is very unusable, > > it's look nice, but it's unusably.. > > 52x52 vs 48x48 makes no difference in terms of number of vertical > applications on the launcher in a standard netbook screen. The last once > folds a tiny bit sooner is all. > > I should note the code is completely flexible in icon sizing so we can > do resolution independent UI in the future. > > > > > Bets, > > > > El dom, 05-12-2010 a las 18:53 -0500, Jason Smith escribió: > > > There are unfortunate limitations on icon sizing in Linux. We are > > > stuck > > > with 24px, 32px, 48px, and 64px icons. We can interpolate in > > > between, > > > however this will make it fuzzy. Further 32x32 is not a good option > > > since a lot of applications only ship a 24, 48, 64 set of icons. > > > Further, svg's while scalable, do not scale all that well either. > > > What > > > are designed to be 1px lines end up being fractions of pixels, > > > making > > > them fuzzy as well. > > > > > > For the compiz version of Unity it was then decided to use 48x48 > > > icons, > > > with a 2 pixel border in the tile. This represents a growth in tile > > > size > > > from mavericks 48x48 to Natty's 52x52. The icons do *look* a lot > > > bigger > > > though because the icon fills a lot more of the tile now. In reality > > > however, the icons are only 8% bigger. Some of this loss can be made > > > up > > > for by a smaller padding on each side of the launcher. > > > > > > If you look at the launcher in Maverick you will see the icons are > > > fuzzy. Be warned though, once you notice this, you can never > > > un-notice! > > > > > > To be truly scalable, Icon authors need to make svg's, and svg needs > > > a > > > way to denote a line has a fix pixel size. Until this is both > > > possible > > > and completed, we are stuck in the world of fixed icon sizes... or > > > shipping lots of icons. > > -- > Jason Smith | Desktop Experience Team > GNOME Developer > Canonical USA Inc. > T. +1.248.756.6266 | jason.sm...@canonical.com > Ubuntu - Linux for human beings | www.ubuntu.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana > Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana > Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Jason Smith | Desktop Experience Team GNOME Developer Canonical USA Inc. T. +1.248.756.6266 | jason.sm...@canonical.com Ubuntu - Linux for human beings | www.ubuntu.com _______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
