Arrgh, I just realized that I used an email address not registered with Ayatana
when I sent this earlier, so apologies for the double post :^(
--- On Mon, 5/24/10, erickbrunz...@sbcglobal.net <erickbrunz...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
From: erickbrunz...@sbcglobal.net <erickbrunz...@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [Ayatana] Rethink the noninteractive Live CD default boot?
To: "Michael Forrest" <michael.forr...@canonical.com>
Cc: ayatana@lists.launchpad.net
Date: Monday, May 24, 2010, 7:46 AM
Thank you for your reply Michael.
Regarding your reason #2: "To distill the options presented to an Ubuntu
newcomer down to the one
real decision: 'Try Ubuntu' or 'Install Ubuntu'", I have always felt, and
therefore recommended, that the very first decision should be to "Check disc
for defects".
Otherwise if the Live Desktop fails to run properly or, even worse, if an
installation fails the first question I always ask is if the CD passed the
integrity test. I'm unsure if you saw my original message so I'm pasting it
below. I'd certainly appreciate it if you'd take a few minutes to review some
of the more inflammatory recent posts at launchpad (I'm Erick Brunzell):
As I found out iso-testing prior to Lucid Beta 1
the Live CD now requires user interaction to display menu options:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/539172
At first this seemed fine but having used this more and more I find
it to be only annoying. Consider the following:
1) It creates confusion for those who are new to Ubuntu. I've seen
this a lot at the forums.
2) We've only moved the interactive part to a later point in the boot
cycle because you still must choose whether to just "run" Ubuntu or
install Ubuntu, so this really did not result in a faster boot.
3) With that "move" all we've done is "remove" the options to check
CD for defects, adjust boot parameters, etc. without an otherwise
unnecessary reboot which only results in frustration.
4) Even after learning of the new "boot behavior" the option to press
any key passes so quickly that even an unplanned phone call or some
other interruption can cause me to miss the opportunity, and increasing
that "time out" would only increase the boot time.
I'm curious what others think about this. We could possibly plan
changes for the first "point release" of Lucid and I'd think certainly
for Maverick,
and no time like the present ;^)
Thank you again.
--- On Mon, 5/24/10, Michael Forrest <michael.forr...@canonical.com> wrote:
From: Michael Forrest <michael.forr...@canonical.com>
Subject: Re: [Ayatana] Rethink the noninteractive Live CD default boot?
To: "Mark Shuttleworth" <m...@ubuntu.com>
Cc: "Lance" <lbsol...@yahoo.com>, ayatana@lists.launchpad.net
Date: Monday, May 24, 2010, 4:59 AM
On 16 May 2010, at 16 May 13:21, Mark Shuttleworth wrote:
On 16/05/10 01:00, Lance wrote:
As I found out iso-testing prior to Lucid Beta 1 the Live CD
now requires user interaction to display menu options:
Michael Forrest, cc'd, is the right person to chat with about the
install CD experience. Michael, could you reply on-list for everyone's
benefit?
Mark
There are two important reasons for this change.1. To create a consistent
look-and-feel across the entire Live CD / Installation experience2. To distill
the options presented to an Ubuntu newcomer down to the one real decision: 'Try
Ubuntu' or 'Install Ubuntu'
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