>>>>> "Ralf" == Ralf Corsepius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>>  Well, I hear you Pavel.  I'm going to rewrite my patch, and submit
>> it.  It will try to warn when --host, --build or --target is used
>> when it is not supposed to be.

Ralf> I hope you consider that passing all three (including --target)
Ralf> can give sense occasionally.

Ralf> Example: A toplevel configure.in configuring packages in
Ralf> subdirectories in a similar way to what the toplevel
Ralf> Cygnus-configure in Cygnus source-tree does. [Imagine rewriting
Ralf> the toplevel Cygnus configure with autoconf.]

I don't understand your point.  Are you saying that it can happen that
you cross-configure a deep package with parts of which can be
cross-compiled, and others not?  And then you;d like configure to be
quiet?

I'm not sure that's the most helping choice?

But the patch I'm referring to does enable the three options when they
make sense.


>>  But I do understand that the present case is somewhat different,
>> and if knowledgeable people agree it should die, I will follow you,
>> of course.

Ralf> IMO, passing --target rarely gives sense, but it sometimes does.
Ralf> Therefore, if it shall be removed from AC_CANONICAL_SYSTEM, then
Ralf> a AC_CANONICAL_TARGET macro should be provided instead.

We have to keep AC_CAN_SYS for backward compatibility.

Because of the defaults, AC_C_TAR requires AC_C_HOST which requires
AC_C_BUILD, so indeed AC_C_TAR == AC_C_SYS.



>> I have one question.  It seems to me that --build always makes
>> sense.
Ralf> Agreed, it would then play the role $host* has been playing
Ralf> until now, therefore it should be treated like $host has been
Ralf> treated before.

Ralf> Therefore in case of a package not explicitly considering
Ralf> cross-compilation (esp. if not using AC_CHECK_TOOLS and
Ralf> AC_CANONICAL_HOST), it should be setup identical as $host* has
Ralf> been setup until now, with $host now defaulting from $build.

I think I agree, but I don't quite get your point :) But my question
is more or less `should AC_C_BUILD always be used', which means that
config.* should always be shipped.   I'm not sure people want this.



>> Still, should it be ``accepted'' only when some AC_CANONICAL_stuff
>> was required?

Ralf> AC_CANONICAL_* implies adding config.guess and config.sub.

Ralf> To avoid always having to add config.guess and config.sub,
Ralf> $build* and $host* should be both available in native-only
Ralf> cases, but should abort if host!=build.

Ralf> Then, host!=build should only be accepted if AC_CANONICAL_* (and
Ralf> therefore config.guess/config.sub, too) is present.
 
Hm, I think I'm starting to understand what you mean.  But I'd like to
hear more comments about this.

Also, usually it's an alias which is passed to --build etc., so we
would need config.sub anyway, let it be just to canonicalize.

Akim

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