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While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as necessary) the 
following questions, which are also in the XML file.

1) <!--[rfced] May we update the short title that spans the top of the
PDF file to more closely match the document title as shown below?

Original:
   AS_SET, AS_CONFED_SET use deprecation

Perhaps:
   Deprecation of AS_SET and AS_CONFED_SET
-->


2) <!-- [rfced] Please insert any keywords (beyond those that appear in
the title) for use on https://www.rfc-editor.org/search.
 -->


3) <!-- [rfced] Errata

a) Because this document updates RFC 4271, please
review the errata reported for RFC 4271 
(https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=4271)
and let us know if you confirm our opinion that none of
the errata are relevant to the content of this document.

b) Because this document updates RFC 5065, please
review the errata reported for RFC 5065 
(https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=5065)
and let us know if you confirm our opinion that none of
the errata are relevant to the content of this document.
-->


4) <!--[rfced] Should "BCP 172" be added as an entry under the 
Normative References section, or should "BCP 172" be 
replaced with "RFC 6472" since it's the only RFC in 
BCP 172? Please let us know your preference.

Abstract/Introduction

Original:
   BCP 172 (i.e., RFC 6472) recommends not using AS_SET and
   AS_CONFED_SET AS_PATH segment types in the Border Gateway Protocol
   (BGP).

   BCP 172 [RFC6472] makes a recommendation for not using AS_SET (see
   [RFC4271]) and AS_CONFED_SET (see [RFC5065]) AS_PATH path segment
   types in the Border Gateway Protocol (BGP). 

Perhaps:
   RFC 6472 recommends not using AS_SET and AS_CONFED_SET AS_PATH segment 
   types in the Border Gateway Protocol (BGP).

   [RFC6472] makes a recommendation for not using AS_SET [RFC4271] and 
   AS_CONFED_SET [RFC5065] AS_PATH path segment types in the Border 
   Gateway Protocol (BGP). 
-->


5) <!--[rfced] For conciseness, we updated "possibility of ambiguity" to
"any ambiguity" as shown below. Please let us know of any objections.

Original:
   In particular, the prohibition of AS_SETs and AS_CONFED_SETs 
   removes the possibility of ambiguity about origin AS in 
   RPKI-based route origin validation (RPKI-ROV) [RFC6811] 
   [RFC6907] [RFC9319].

Current:
   In particular, the prohibition of AS_SETs and AS_CONFED_SETs 
   removes any ambiguity about the origin AS in RPKI-based Route 
   Origin Validation (RPKI-ROV) [RFC6811] [RFC6907] [RFC9319].
-->


6) <!--[rfced] FYI: In order to make the list parallel in Section 3, we
updated the second bullet point as shown below.

Original:
   *  MUST NOT advertise BGP UPDATE messages containing AS_SETs or
      AS_CONFED_SETs, and 

   *  Upon reception of BGP UPDATE messages containing AS_SETs or 
      AS_CONFED_SETs in the AS_PATH or AS4_PATH [RFC6793], MUST
      use the "treat-as-withdraw" error handling behavior as 
      per [RFC7606].

Current:
   *  MUST NOT advertise BGP UPDATE messages containing AS_SETs or
      AS_CONFED_SETs and 

   *  MUST use the "treat-as-withdraw" error handling behavior per
      [RFC7606] upon reception of BGP UPDATE messages containing 
      AS_SETs or AS_CONFED_SETs in the AS_PATH or AS4_PATH [RFC6793].
-->


7) <!--[rfced] Please clarify what "the property" refers to in the
following sentence.

Original:
   Brief aggregation results in an AS_PATH that has
   the property (from [RFC4271], Section 9.2.2.2):
-->


8) <!--[rfced] We updated the following sentence for clarity as
shown below. Please let us know of any objections.

Original:
   As discussed in Section 5.1 of [RFC4632], the presence of both less
   specific and more specific destinations has the possibility to create
   forwarding loops between networks.

Current:
   When both less specific and more specific destinations are present, it's 
   possible to create forwarding loops between networks, as discussed in 
   Section 5.1 of [RFC4632].
-->


9) <!-- [rfced] FYI: We updated the reference entry for [Analysis] to
match the guidance for referencing web-based public code repositories
in the Web Portion of the RFC Style Guide
(https://www.rfc-editor.org/styleguide/part2/#ref_repo).

Original:
   [Analysis] Hannachi, L. and K. Sriram, "Detailed analysis of AS_SETs 
              in BGP updates", NIST Robust Inter-domain Routing Project 
              Website , October 2019,
              <https://github.com/ksriram25/IETF/blob/main/Detailed-AS_SET-
              analysis.txt>.

Current:
   [Analysis] "Detailed analysis of AS_SETs in BGP updates", commit
              eb0fc22, March 2022,
              <https://github.com/ksriram25/IETF/blob/main/Detailed-
              AS_SET-analysis.txt>.
-->


10) <!--[rfced] We updated the following sentence for clarity. Please let
us know if it changes the intended meaning.

Original:
   Presented here is an illustration of how an AS_SET is not used when 
   aggregating and still data-plane route loops are avoided.

Current:
   The illustration presented below shows how an AS_SET is not used 
   when aggregating and how data plane route loops are avoided. 
-->


11) <!--[rfced] Regarding Appendices B.1, B.2, and B.3, would it be
clearer and easier to read if an introductory sentence was
included in each section (and thus each section title was
shortened) as shown below? Please review.

Additionally, we note that some lines include a period and some 
don't. May we add a period after each sentence for consistency?

Original:
B.1.  Scenario 1: First one route, then another, each with a fully
      disjoint AS_PATH

   Receive R1.  Aggregate 192.0.2.0/24 AS_PATH "64501"
   ...

B.2.  Scenario 2: First one route, then another, the AS_PATHs overlap at
      the origin AS.

   Receive R1.  Aggregate 192.0.2.0/24 AS_PATH "64501"
   ...

B.3.  Scenario 3: First one route, then another, the AS_PATHs overlap at
      the neighbor AS

   Receive R3.  Aggregate 192.0.2.0/24 AS_PATH "64504 64501".
   ...

Perhaps:
B.1.  Scenario 1

   Scenario 1 first depicts one route, then another, and each route has
   a fully disjoint AS_PATH:

   Receive R1.  Aggregate 192.0.2.0/24 AS_PATH "64501".
   ...

B.2.  Scenario 2

   Scenario 2 first depicts one route, then another, and the AS_PATHs 
   overlap at the origin AS:

   Receive R1.  Aggregate 192.0.2.0/24 AS_PATH "64501".
   ...

B.3.  Scenario 3

   Scenario 3 first depicts one route, then another, and the AS_PATHs 
   overlap at the neighbor AS:

   Receive R3.  Aggregate 192.0.2.0/24 AS_PATH "64504 64501".
   ...
-->


12) <!-- [rfced] FYI: We have added an expansion for the following
abbreviation per Section 3.6 of RFC 7322 ("RFC Style
Guide"). Please review this expansion and each expansion in the
document carefully to ensure correctness.

  Classless Inter-Domain Routing (CIDR)
-->


13) <!-- [rfced] Please review the "Inclusive Language" portion of the online 
Style Guide <https://www.rfc-editor.org/styleguide/part2/#inclusive_language>
and let us know if any changes are needed.  Updates of this nature typically
result in more precise language, which is helpful for readers.

For example, please consider whether the following should be updated: 

  - traditional
 
While the NIST website <https://web.archive.org/web/20250214092458/
https://www.nist.gov/nist-research-library/nist-technical-series-publications-
author-instructions#table1> indicates that this term is potentially biased, it 
is also ambiguous. "Tradition" is a subjective term, as it is not the same 
for everyone.
-->


Thank you.

RFC Editor/kc


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RFC9774 (draft-ietf-idr-deprecate-as-set-confed-set-18)

Title            : Deprecation of AS_SET and AS_CONFED_SET in BGP
Author(s)        : W. Kumari, K. Sriram, L. Hannachi, J. Haas
WG Chair(s)      : Susan Hares, Keyur Patel, Jeffrey Haas

Area Director(s) : Jim Guichard, Ketan Talaulikar, Gunter Van de Velde



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