Hi Megan, Sorry for a late reply. I have done a full check!
There is an error in the YANG file which is leading to a YANG validation error. -- OLD: reference "RFC 8454: Information Model for Abstraction and Control of TE Networks (ACTN)"; "RFC 8795: YANG Data Model for Traffic Engineering (TE) Topologies"; NEW: reference "RFC 8454: Information Model for Abstraction and Control of TE Networks (ACTN) RFC 8795: YANG Data Model for Traffic Engineering (TE) Topologies"; END Please run all the YANG validation checks after fixing that -- Apart from that please note my AUTH48 approval. Thanks! Dhruv On Sat, Feb 8, 2025 at 6:26 AM Megan Ferguson < mfergu...@staff.rfc-editor.org> wrote: > Dhruv, > > Thank you for your reply. We have updated accordingly. Please pay > particular attention to: > > -any updates that may have overlapped with leaf names, > -the way we updated to cite RFC 8792 (does further marking like that in > RFC 9646 need to be added?), and > -the way we updated the names of the YANG modules > > and let us know if any further updates are necessary. > > Please review the files carefully as we do not make changes after > publication. > > The files have been posted here (please refresh): > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9731.txt > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9731.pdf > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9731.html > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9731.xml > > The relevant diff files have been posted here (please refresh): > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9731-diff.html (comprehensive > diff) > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9731-auth48diff.html (AUTH48 > changes only) > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9731-lastdiff.html (last to > current version only) > > Please contact us with any further updates/questions/comments you may > have. > > We will await approvals from each of the parties listed on the AUTH48 > status page prior to moving forward to publication. > > The AUTH48 status page for this document is available here: > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9731 > > Thank you. > > RFC Editor/mf > > > On Feb 5, 2025, at 5:53 AM, Dhruv Dhody <dhruv.i...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > On Tue, Jan 28, 2025 at 11:09 AM <rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org> wrote: > > Authors, > > > > While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as > necessary) the following questions, which are also in the XML file. > > > > 1) <!-- [rfced] Please insert any keywords (beyond those that appear in > > the title) for use on https://www.rfc-editor.org/search. --> > > > > > > Dhruv: ACTN, SDN, TE > > > > > > > > 2) <!--[rfced] Is the final sentence of the Abstract pointing to another > > document (RFC 8453)? Or is this a general mention of the concept? > > > > Original: > > This includes VN operations as per the Abstraction and Control of TE > > Networks (ACTN) framework. > > > > Perhaps: > > This includes VN operations as per the Abstraction and Control of TE > > Networks (ACTN) framework described in RFC 8453. > > > > --> > > > > > > Dhruv: Add reference to RFC 8453 is fine. > > > > > > > > 3) <!-- [rfced] FYI, the authors' comments in the XML file have been > > marked with [auth]. Please let us know if any updates are needed > > based on those comments; if not, they will be removed. > > --> > > > > > > Dhruv: Please remove! > > > > > > > > 4) <!--[rfced] Might the following update to the Terminology section be > > helpful to the reader? It reduces redundancy, groups the > > abbreviations in one list, and makes the treatment of the terms > > more similar. Otherwise, we have "Connectivity Matrix" without > > any descriptor in the original... > > > > Original: > > > > 1.1. Terminology > > > > This document borrows the following terms from [RFC8453]: > > > > VN: Virtual Network > > > > AP: Access Point > > > > VNAP: VN Access Point > > > > ACTN: Abstraction and Control of TE Networks > > > > CNC: Customer Network Controller > > > > MDSC: Multi-Domain Service Coordinator > > > > CMI: CNC-MDSC Interface > > > > This document borrows the following terms from [RFC8795]: > > > > LTP: Link Termination Point > > > > Connectivity Matrix > > > > This document borrows the terminology in Section 1.1 of [RFC7926]. > > > > This document uses the term 'Service Model' as described in > > [RFC8309]. > > > > Perhaps: > > 1.1. Terminology > > > > This document borrows the following abbreviations from [RFC8453] > > and/or [RFC8795]: > > > > VN: Virtual Network > > > > AP: Access Point > > > > VNAP: VN Access Point > > > > ACTN: Abstraction and Control of TE Networks > > > > CNC: Customer Network Controller > > > > MDSC: Multi-Domain Service Coordinator > > > > CMI: CNC-MDSC Interface > > > > LTP: Link Termination Point > > > > This document borrows the terminology in Section 1.1 of > > [RFC7926], the term "Service Model" from [RFC8309], and the term > > "Connectivity Matrix" from [RFC8795]. > > > > --> > > > > > > Dhruv: Happy with the change. > > > > > > > > 5) <!--[rfced] The use of the blockquote element with this text may be > > confusing to readers. If this is simply a paraphrase instead of > > a direct quote from RFC 8543 (which it appears to be), we suggest > > removing the blockquote element. > > > > Original: > > As defined in [RFC8453], a Virtual Network is a customer view of the > > TE network. To recapitulate VN types from [RFC8453], Type 1 VN is > > defined as follows: > > > > | The VN can be seen as a set of edge-to-edge abstract links (a Type > > | 1 VN). Each abstract link is referred to as a VN member and is > > | formed as an end-to-end tunnel across the underlying networks. > > | Such tunnels may be constructed by recursive slicing or > > | abstraction of paths in the underlying networks and can encompass > > | edge points of the customer's network, access links, intra-domain > > | paths, and inter-domain links. > > > > Perhaps: > > As defined in [RFC8453], a Virtual Network is a customer view of the > > TE network. To recapitulate VN types from [RFC8453], Type 1 VN is > > defined as follows: > > > > The VN can be seen as a set of edge-to-edge abstract links (a Type > > 1 VN). Each abstract link is referred to as a VN member and is > > formed as an end-to-end tunnel across the underlying networks. > > Such tunnels may be constructed by recursive slicing or > > abstraction of paths in the underlying networks and can encompass > > edge points of the customer's network, access links, intra-domain > > paths, and inter-domain links. > > > > --> > > > > > > Dhruv: Fine. > > > > > > > > 6) <!--[rfced] We are unsure of how to parse the list below beginning > > with "which". Please rephrase. > > > > Original: > > Type 1 VN can be seen as a higher abstraction of a Type 2 VN (which > > along with a single node abstract topology, an underlay topology and > > the intended path is specified). > > > > --> > > > > > > Dhruv: A Type 1 VN can be viewed as a higher-level abstraction of a Type > 2 VN, which represents a single node abstract topology over the underlay > topology and includes a mechanism to specify intended paths. > > > > > > > > 7) <!--[rfced] In the "Type 1 VN Illustration" figure (Figure 5), should > > "multi-s-d" instead read as "multi-s/d" to more closely mirror > > the text to the right of the figure? --> > > > > > > Dhruv: Yes please! > > > > > > > > 8) <!--[rfced] This sentence may trip up some readers; particularly, how > > does "only" apply to the sentence (especially considering the use > > of "as well")? Please consider a rephrase. > > > > Original: > > The VN operation allows the creation of a VN with only a PE identifier > > as well. > > > > --> > > > > > > Dhruv: Please remove "as well". > > > > > > > > 9) <!--[rfced] Please review the use of lowercase "vn" in this sentence. > > Is this the abbreviation for Virtual Network? Or is this the > > Prefix defined in Section 1.3? > > > > > > Original: > > To achieve this, the 'ap' container has a leaf for 'pe' node that > > allows AP to be created with PE information. The vn-member (and vn) > > could use APs that only have PE information initially. > > > > --> > > > > > > Dhruv: Thanks for spotting it. Change that to "VN member (and VN)", as > this is about them in general and not YANG container and leaves. > > > > > > > > 10) <!--[rfced] We had a few questions about the bulleted list following > > Figure 10: > > > > a) May we replace "This" with its antecedent for clarity? Note that > > this text occurs twice (in the first two bullets of the list): > > > > Original: > > This also overrides any constraints in the referenced abstract node in > > the TE topology. > > > > Pephaps: > > The VN-member level also overrides any constraints in the referenced > > abstract node in the TE topology. > > > > b) In the following, is the meaning "at the VN level and/or VN-member > > level"? Note that this text also occurs twice in the first two bullet > > points of this list. > > > > Original: > > This is used optionally in the RPC input at the VN and/or VN-member > > level. > > > > Perhaps: > > This is used optionally in the RPC input at the VN level and/or the > > VN-member level. > > --> > > > > > > Dhruv: Here is the updated list which builds on your suggested changes - > > > > To achieve this, the VN-compute RPC reuses the following common > groupings: > > > > • te-types:generic-path-constraints: is used optionally in the RPC > input at the VN-level and/or VN-member-level. The VN-member-level overrides > the VN-level data including any constraints in the referenced abstract node > in the TE topology. > > • te-types:generic-path-optimization: is used optionally in the > RPC input at the VN-level and/or VN-member-level. The VN-member-level > overrides the VN-level data including any optimization in the referenced > abstract node in the TE topology. > > • vn-member: identifies the VN member in both RPC input and output. > > • vn-policy: is used optionally in the RPC input to apply any > VN-level policies. > > > > > > > > 11) <!--[rfced] We would suggest making the following updates for clarity > > as two YANG models are being discussed in close proximity. > > > > Original: > > Note that the YANG model is tightly coupled with the TE Topology > > model [RFC8795]. Any underlay technology not supported by [RFC8795] > > is also not supported by this model. The model does include an empty > > container called "underlay" that can be augmented. For example the > > Segment Routing (SR) Policy [RFC9256] information can be augmented > > for the SR underlay by a future model. > > > > Perhaps: > > Note that the VN YANG model is tightly coupled with the TE Topology > > model [RFC8795]. Any underlay technology not supported by the TE > > Topology model in [RFC8795] is also not supported by the VN YANG > > model. However, the VN YANG model does include an empty container > > called "underlay" that can be augmented. For example, the Segment > > Routing (SR) Policy [RFC9256] information can be augmented for the > > SR underlay by a future model. > > --> > > > > Dhruv: Yes, this is better! > > > > > > > > 12) <!--[rfced] RFC 4124 does not use the term "cos" or "class of > > service". Is this citation in the right place in the sentence? > > > > Original: > > Apart from the te-types:generic-path-constraints and te- > > types:generic-path-optimization, an additional leaf cos for the class > > of service [RFC4124] is added to represent the Class-Type of traffic > > to be used as one of the path constraints. > > > > Perhaps: > > Apart from the te-types:generic-path-constraints and te- > > types:generic-path-optimization, an additional leaf cos for the class > > of service is added to represent the Class-Type of traffic [RFC4124] > > to be used as one of the path constraints. > > --> > > > > > > Dhruv: Works for me! > > > > > > > > 13) <!--[rfced] We had the following questions about the YANG module in > > Section 6: > > > > a) Is "This module contains a YANG module" correct? > > > > Original: > > This module contains a YANG module for the Virtual Network (VN). > > > > Perhaps: > > This YANG module is for the Virtual Network (VN). > > > > > > Dhruv: Works for me! > > > > b) The beginning of the module lists abbreviations, but they are > > expanded on first use in the module anyway. May we cut these first > > expansions? > > > > > > Dhruv: Yes! > > > > > > c) Same for src and dest: they are introduced, but not used in > > descriptions consistently. Please let us know if updates should be > > made. > > > > > > Dhruv: My suggestion would be to use "source" and "destination" in the > description clause. But the yang leaf names or feature name should be src > and dest. > > > > So the change needed would be in - > > - feature multi-src-dest > > - leaf if-selected > > - leaf vn-ap-id > > - leaf if-selected (inside the rpc) > > > > > > > > d) FYI - We will update the expansion of CMI to match the version used > > in the Terminology section (i.e., CNC-MDSC Interface) as follows (if > > you decide to keep the abbreviations list we mentioned above - if not, > > we will simply update in the running text): > > > > Original: > > It describes a VN operation module that can take place > > in the context of the Customer Network Controller (CNC)- > > Multi-Domain Service Coordinator (MDSC) interface (CMI) of > > the Abstraction and Control of Traffic Engineered (TE) > > Networks (ACTN) architecture where the CNC is the actor of > > a VN Instantiation/modification/deletion as per RFC 8453. > > > > This module uses following abbreviations: > > - VN: Virtual Network > > - AP: Access Point > > - VNAP: Virtual Network Access Point > > - LTP: Link Termination Point > > - PE: Provider Edge > > - COS: Class of Service > > > > > > Perhaps: > > It describes a VN operation module that can take place > > in the context of the Customer Network Controller (CNC) > > Multi-Domain Service Coordinator (MDSC) interface of > > the Abstraction and Control of Traffic Engineered (TE) > > Networks (ACTN) architecture where the CNC is the actor of > > a VN instantiation/modification/deletion as per RFC 8453. > > > > This module uses following abbreviations: > > - VN: Virtual Network > > - AP: Access Point > > - VNAP: Virtual Network Access Point > > - LTP: Link Termination Point > > - PE: Provider Edge > > - COS: Class of Service > > - CMI: CNC-MDSC Interface > > > > > > Dhruv: Ok! > > > > > > e) Because this description clause mentions RFC 8795, should a > > reference to it be added as well? > > > > container underlay { > > description > > "An empty container that can be augmented with underlay > > technology information not supported by RFC 8795 (for > > example - Segment Routing (SR)."; > > } > > reference > > "RFC 8454: Information Model for Abstraction and Control of TE > > Networks (ACTN)"; > > > > > > Dhruv: yes! > > > > > > f) Note that the YANG module has been updated per the formatting > > option of pyang. Please let us know any concerns. > > > > Dhruv: No concerns! > > > > > > --> > > > > > > 14) <!--[rfced] We note that IANA lists both RFCs 6020 and 8407 as > > references for the "YANG Module Names" registry. Should this > > text be updated to add RFC 8407 (and an entry added to the > > Informative References section)? > > > > Original: > > IANA is requested to make the following allocation for the YANG > > module in the "YANG Module Names" registry [RFC6020]: > > > > Perhaps: > > IANA has made the following allocation for the YANG module in the > > "YANG Module Names" registry ([RFC6020] and [RFC8407]): > > > > --> > > > > Dhruv: No! Keep the original. I see the same in many recently published > YANG RFCs. > > > > > > > > 15) <!--[rfced] Replacing "this" with its antecedent may help the reader > > with clarity. > > > > Original: > > It should be noted that this YANG module relies on the TE-Topology > > Model [RFC8795] by using a reference to an abstract node to achieve > > this. > > > > Perhaps: > > It should be noted that the VN YANG module described in this document > > relies on the TE-Topology Model in [RFC8795] by using a reference to > > an abstract node to provide VN-level constraints and optimization > > criteria. > > --> > > > > > > Dhruv: Okay! > > > > > > > > 16) <!--[rfced] We have received guidance from Benoit Claise and the YANG > > Doctors that "YANG module" and "YANG data model" are preferred. > > > > a) We will update to use the above forms unless we hear objection. > > > > b) Note that we have already updated the short/running title of the > > document from "VN YANG Model" to "VN YANG Data Model". Please let us > > know any objections. > > > > c) Please let us know if any uses of "VN model" (particularly in the > > Introduction) should also be updated with the above guidance in mind. > > We see the following inconsistent use of that term. Please also let > > us know any updates to the capitalization scheme of this term. > > > > VN model vs. VN Model > > > > Dhruv: VN model > > > > > > VN module > > > > Dhruv: we can change that to VN model (and also change TE-topology > Connectivity Matrix module -> TE-topology model) > > > > > > > > VN-YANG model vs. VN YANG model vs. VN Yang model > > > > > > Dhruv: VN YANG model > > > > > > d) Please review the way that the module from RFC 8795 is referred to > > and let us know if/how this may be made uniform: > > > > TE-Topology Model vs. TE-topology Model vs. TE-Topology model > > vs. TE-topology model vs. TE Topology model > > > > and > > > > TE-Topo Model vs. TE-topo model > > > > and > > > > TE-topology YANG > > TE-topo > > > > > > Dhruv: TE Topology model (we can change all of the above to this) > > > > e) We also see "TE-tunnel Model" (with Model capped). Please review > > and advise on if Model should be used for these names of YANG modules. > > > > > > Dhruv: change that to "TE model" > > > > > > --> > > > > > > 17) <!-- [rfced] We had a few comments/questions regarding sourcecode and > > artwork elements: > > > > a) FYI - We updated <artwork> to <sourcecode> in Sections 4.3.1, > > 4.3.2, 5, and 6 and in Appendix B.1 and B.2. Please confirm that this > > is correct. > > > > > > Dhruv: ok > > > > > > b) Please consider whether the "type" attribute of any sourcecode > > element should be set and/or has been set correctly. > > > > The current list of preferred values for "type" is available at > > <https://www.rfc-editor.org/rpc/wiki/doku.php?id=sourcecode-types>. > > If the current list does not contain an applicable type, feel free to > > suggest additions for consideration. Note that it is also acceptable > > to leave the "type" attribute not set. > > > > > > Dhruv: > > Section 4: yangtree > > Section 5: yangtree > > Section 6: yang > > Appendix B.1 and B.2: json > > > > > > c) FYI - We updated the list in Section 3.2 to <artwork> to match the > > artwork in Section 2.1 and Appendix B.1. Please confirm that this is > > correct. > > > > > > Dhruv: ok > > > > > > d) We note that the tree structures represented in Sections 4.3.1, > > 4.3.2, and 5 all have line lengths over the 72-character limit. RFC > > 8792 defines the use of the backslash character for breaking these > > lines. We will update to use backslashes where necessary and add an > > informative reference to RFC 8792 unless we hear objection. > > --> > > > > > > Dhruv: ok > > > > > > > > 18) <!--[rfced] We had the following questions related to figure titles > in > > this document: > > > > a) We note that Figures 2, 6, and 11 do not have titles while the > > other figures in the document do. Please let us know what, if any, > > titles you would like to add. > > > > > > Dhruv: > > Figure 2: VN members (Type 1 VN) > > Figure 6: VN members (Type 2 VN) > > Figure 11: Example > > > > > > b) We note that Figures 9 and 10 have the same titles. Please let us > > know if these figures can be differentiated in some way. We also feel > > doing so might lead to an updated of this text, in which "In either > > case" might be able to become more easily understandable to the > > reader: > > > > Dhruv: > > Figure 9: VN Compute with reference to TE topology model > > Figure 10: VN Compute > > > > > > Original: > > In either case the output includes a reference to the single node > > abstract topology with each VN-member including a reference to the > > connectivity-matrix-id where the path properties could be found. > > > > > > Dhruv: Maybe - > > "Regardless of whether the TE topology model is referenced, the RPC > output includes a reference to the single node abstract topology, with each > VN member containing a reference to the connectivity-matrix-id where the > path properties could be found". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > c) We see the title of Figure 3 includes "One Node Topology" while the > > title of Figure 4 is "Type 2 Topology". Should these be made more > > similar? That is, is Figure 3 actually "Type 1 Topology"? > > > > > > Dhruv: Makes sense to change! > > > > > > --> > > > > > > 19) <!--[rfced] We had the following questions/comments regarding > > abbreviation use in this document: > > > > a) To match the guidance at > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/styleguide/part2/#exp_abbrev, we will > > remove the expansions from abbreviations that have already been > > expanded (excluding repeats in the YANG). Examples as follows: > > > > VN > > PE > > > > b) We have expanded these abbreviations on first use as follows. > > Please let us know any objections: > > > > LSP - Label Switched Path > > RPC - Remote Procedure Call > > > > c) To reduce redundancy, we cut repeated words from following an > > abbreviation. Please let us know any objections. > > > > RPC call > > > > > > Dhruv: okay to above! > > > > > > d) We note that the document uses both "cos" and "COS" as relates to > > Class of Service. Please review if this capitalization variance > > should be made uniform and if so, which form is preferred. > > > > > > Dhruv: cos is used when talking about the leaf in YANG, and COS for the > generic concept. > > > > > > --> > > > > > > 20) <!--[rfced] The following terminology appears to have been used > > inconsistently throughout the document. Please review each use > > carefully and let us know if/how they may be updated. Note: it > > may be easier for authors to directly update our edited XML, > > which they are welcome to do. > > > > a) Please review the mixed use of capitalization, hyphenation, and > > word order in the instances of the following. Please let us know > > if/how to update. > > > > VN Members vs. VN members vs. VN-members vs. vn-member > > > > > > Dhruv: lets use "VN member" as per RFC 8453, except when talking about a > yang leaf "vn-member" > > > > VN Type vs. VN type > > > > > > Dhruv: VN type > > > > > > abstract node vs. Abstract Node vs. Abstract node vs. node abstract > > > > > > Dhruv: abstract node > > > > > > single-node-abstract topology vs. single node abstract topology > > vs. single node topology abstract1 > > > > > > Dhruv: single node abstract topology > > > > > > TE topology vs. TE Topology vs. TE-topology vs. TE network topology > > vs. TE-topo > > > > > > Dhruv: TE topology > > > > > > Connectivity Matrices vs. connectivity matrix and Conn. Matrix > > vs. conn. matrix > > > > > > Dhruv: connectivity matrix > > > > > > vn-compute vs. VN compute vs. Computed VNs vs. computed VN vs. > > VN computation > > > > > > Dhruv: VN compute > > > > > > explicit path vs. explicit abstract path vs. Explicit path > > > > > > Dhruv: explicit path > > > > > > > > b) Please review the use of multi-source vs. multi-src and > > multi-destination vs. multi-dest and let us know if updates are > > desired. > > > > > > Dhruv: Section 7, update to multi-source and multi-destination > > > > > > c) May we update to use hyphenation with VN-level when in attributive > > position throughout? > > > > > > Dhruv: if you do that, will you also do VN-member-level? > > > > > > d) We note that this document uses "compute only" while > > draft-ietf-teas-yang-te-36 uses "compute-only". Please let us know > > how you would like to update for consistency. > > > > > > Dhruv: yes please! > > > > > > > > --> > > > > > > 21) <!--[rfced] Please review the "Inclusive Language" portion of the > > online Style Guide > > <https://www.rfc-editor.org/styleguide/part2/#inclusive_language> > > and let us know if any changes are needed. Updates of this > > nature typically result in more precise language, which is > > helpful for readers. > > > > For example, our script pointed out: > > > > native TE topology / native TE Topology > > Native/White topology > > > > > > Dhruv: This is fine! no change! > > > > > > With the use of "Gray topology", we assume "Native/White topology" is > > related. Please advise. > > > > Dhruv: Grey topology is from RFC 8453 as it is used there! 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