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1) <!--[rfced] Please note that the title of the document has been updated as
follows. Abbreviations have been expanded per Section 3.6 of RFC 7322 ("RFC
Style Guide"). Please review and confirm that this is how you would like
"BRSKI-AE" to be expanded both in the title and throughout the rest of
this document.

Original:
BRSKI-AE: Alternative Enrollment Protocols in BRSKI

Current:
BRSKI-AE: Bootstrapping Remote Secure Key Infrastructure with Alternative 
Enrollment
-->


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3) <!-- [rfced] We have updated the text below to improve readability. Please
review to ensure these changes do not alter your intended meaning.

Original:
   It uses them to authenticate itself to the
   Manufacturer Authorized Signing Authority (MASA, [RFC8995]), and
   to the registrar, which is the access point of the target domain,
   and to possibly further components of the domain where it will be
   operated.

Current:
   It uses them to authenticate itself to the
   Manufacturer Authorized Signing Authority (MASA) [RFC8995] and the
   registrar (which is the access point of the target domain) and to
   possibly further components of the domain where it will be
   operated.
-->      


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c.) We note that several abbreviations appear in this document that are not
included in the terminology list in Section 2 (see some examples
below). Please review and let us know if these or any other terms should be
added.

(Note that we have already added a list item for Certification Authority (CA)
as this abbreviation appears in other definitions in this list.)

Key Encapsulation Mechanism (KEM)
Certificate Request Message Format (CRMF)
Simple Certificate Enrolment Protocol (SCEP)
Certificate Management over CMS (CMC)
Autonomic Control Plane (ACP)
-->


5) <!-- [rfced] May we clarify the content in the parenthetical text below?

Original:
   Binding a certificate signing request (CSR) to an existing
   authenticated credential (the BRSKI context, the IDevID certificate)
   enables proof of origin...

Perhaps:
   Binding a Certificate Signing Request (CSR) to an existing
   authenticated credential (such as the BRSKI context or the IDevID 
certificate)
   enables proof of origin...
-->


6) <!-- [rfced] FYI - For ease of the reader, we have broken up the following
sentences below into two. Please let us know any objections.

Original:
   What the registrar needs to do is to authenticate and pre-authorize the
   pledge and to indicate this to the (second) RA by signing the forwarded
   certification request with its private key and a related certificate
   that has the id-kp- cmcRA extended key usage attribute.
   ...
   It will recognize whether the protocol
   it uses and the specific request it wants to perform are understood
   and supported by the domain registrar by sending the request to the
   respective endpoint according to the above addressing scheme and then
   evaluating the HTTP status code of the response.

Current:
   What the registrar needs to do is authenticate and pre-authorize the
   pledge and indicate this to the (second) RA.  This is done by signing the
   forwarded certification request with its private key and a related 
certificate
   that has the id-kp-cmcRA extended key usage attribute.
   ...
   It will recognize whether the protocol
   it uses and the specific request it wants to perform are understood
   and supported by the domain registrar.  This is done by sending the
   request to the respective endpoint according to the above addressing
   scheme and then evaluating the HTTP status code of the response.     
-->


7) <!--[rfced] To avoid the awkward hyphenation of "PKCS #10-formatted CSRs",
may we update the text as follows?

Original:
   [RFC7030], Section 2.5 sketches wrapping PKCS #10-formatted CSRs
   with a Full PKI Request message sent to the "/fullcmc" endpoint.

Perhaps:
   [RFC7030], Section 2.5 sketches wrapping CSRs formatted per PKCS #10
   with a Full PKI Request message sent to the "/fullcmc" endpoint.
-->      


8) <!-- [rfced] We note the use of "FullCMCRequest" in the following sentence;
however, RFC 7030 uses the term "Full CMC Request". May we update this
instance for consistency with RFC 7030?

Original:
   The proof of identity can be provided as part of a FullCMCRequest, based on
   CMS [RFC5652] and signed with an existing IDevID secret.

Perhaps:
   The proof of identity can be provided as part of a Full CMC Request based on
   CMS [RFC5652] and signed with an existing IDevID secret.
-->


9) <!-- [rfced] In the sentence below, may we update "follows" for clarity?

Original:
      Note: From the definition of the interaction with the MASA in
      [RFC8995], Section 5 follows that it may be synchronous (using
      voucher request with nonces) or asynchronous (using nonceless
      voucher requests).

Perhaps:
      Note: From the definition of the interaction with the MASA in
      Section 5 of [RFC8995], it may be synchronous (using
      voucher requests with nonces) or asynchronous (using nonceless
      voucher requests).
-->


10) <!-- [rfced] How may we clarify what "as not already done" and "it" refer to
in the text below?

Original:
   *  RA: performs centralized certificate management functions as a
      public-key infrastructure for the domain operator.  As far as not
      already done by the domain registrar, it performs the final
      validation and authorization of certification requests.

Perhaps:
   *  RA: This performs centralized certificate management functions as a
      public-key infrastructure for the domain operator.  As far as what is
      not already done by the domain registrar, the RA performs the final
      validation and authorization of certification requests.
-->


11) <!-- [rfced] Throughout this document, we note that RFCs 8895 and 9483 are
often referred to with shortened titles or nicknames such as "BRSKI" and
"LCMPP", respectively.

For clarity, because these names also represent protocols, we plan to update
these document nicknames to just their RFC number (in order to help the reader
distinguish between the RFC itself and the protocol). Please see some examples
below and let us know any objections.

Originals:
   In this document, references to CMP follow the Lightweight CMP
   Profile (LCMPP) [RFC9483] rather than [RFC4210] and [RFC9480], as the
   subset of CMP defined in LCMPP sufficiently meets the required
   functionality.

   *  MASA: functionality as described in BRSKI [RFC8995].  The voucher
      exchange with the MASA via the domain registrar is performed as
      described in BRSKI.

   *  Ownership tracker: This is as defined in BRSKI.

Perhaps:
   In this document, references to CMP follow [RFC9483] rather than
   [RFC4210] and [RFC9480], as the subset of CMP defined in [RFC9483]
   sufficiently meets the required functionality.

   *  MASA: This has the functionality as described in [RFC8995].
      The voucher exchange with the MASA via the domain registrar is
      performed as described in [RFC8995].

   *  Ownership Tracker: This is as defined in [RFC8995].
-->


12) <!-- [rfced] In Section 4.1, should "Discovery phase" and "Identification 
phase"
be updated to "Discover phase" and "Identity phase", respectively, to better
match the figure from Section 2.1 of RFC 8995?

Original:
   Based on the diagram in BRSKI [RFC8995], Section 2.1 and the
   architectural changes, the original protocol flow is divided into
   several phases showing commonalities and differences to the original
   approach as follows.

   *  Discovery phase: mostly as in BRSKI step (1).  For details see
      Section 4.2.1.

   *  Identification phase: same as in BRSKI step (2).

Perhaps:
   Based on the diagram in [RFC8995], Section 2.1 and the
   architectural changes, the original protocol flow is divided into
   several phases showing commonalities and differences to the original
   approach as follows.

   *  Discover phase: This is mostly as in step (1) of [RFC8995].  For
      details see Section 4.2.1.

   *  Identity phase: This is the same as in step (2) of [RFC8995].
-->


13) <!--[rfced] To improve the readability of the following sentence, may we 
update
it as follows?

Original:
   For transporting the certificate enrollment request and response
   messages, the (D)TLS channel established between pledge and
   registrar is REQUIRED to use.

Perhaps:
   It is REQUIRED to use the (D)TLS channel established between the
   pledge and registrar to transport the certificate enrollment request
   and response messages.
-->      


14) <!-- [rfced] Should "options applicable" be updated to "applicable options"
in the text below?

Original:
   Section 5 discusses selected suitable enrollment protocols and options
   applicable.

Perhaps:
   Section 5 discusses selected suitable enrollment protocols and applicable
   options.
-->


15) <!-- [rfced] As this sentence begins Section 4.2.4, may we clarify what
"This" refers to?

Additionally, may we make a similar update in Appendix A.5?

Original:
4.2.4.  Pledge - Registrar - RA/CA Certificate Enrollment

   This replaces the EST integration for PKI bootstrapping described in
   [RFC8995], Section 5.9 (while [RFC8995], Section 5.9.4 remains as the
   final phase, see below).
...
A.5.  Infrastructure Isolation Policy

   This refers to any case in which network infrastructure is normally
   isolated from the Internet as a matter of policy, most likely for
   security reasons.
   
Perhaps:
4.2.4.  Pledge - Registrar - RA/CA Certificate Enrollment

    RA/CA certificate enrollment replaces the EST integration for PKI
    bootstrapping described in Section 5.9 of [RFC8995] (while Section 5.9.4
    of [RFC8995] remains as the final phase; see below).
...
A.5.  Infrastructure Isolation Policy

   The infrastructure isolation policy refers to any case in which...    
-->


16) <!-- [rfced] To improve readability, may we update the list below as 
follows?

Original:
   They include the application scenario, the capabilities of the registrar
   and of the local RA possibly co-located with the registrar, the enrollment
   protocol being used, and the specific contents of the request.

Perhaps:
   They include the application scenario, the capabilities of the registrar,
   the capabilities of the local RA possibly co-located with the registrar,
   the enrollment protocol being used, and the specific contents of the
   request.
-->


17) <!--[rfced] Should the following artwork element be reformatted as
a bulleted list, per text from the preceding paragraph?

Original:
   The following list of endpoints provides an illustrative example of a
   domain registrar supporting several options for EST as well as for
   CMP to be used in BRSKI-AE.
   ...
     /.well-known/brski/voucherrequest
     /.well-known/brski/voucher_status
     /.well-known/brski/enrollstatus
     /.well-known/est/cacerts
     /.well-known/est/csrattrs
     /.well-known/est/fullcmc
     /.well-known/cmp/getcacerts
     /.well-known/cmp/getcertreqtemplate
     /.well-known/cmp/initialization
     /.well-known/cmp/pkcs10
-->


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b.) Please review whether any of the notes in this document
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the <tt>caPubs</tt> field
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<tt>"brski-reg-cmp"</tt>
brski-reg-cmp (no quotes or <tt> styling)

<tt>"brski-registrar"</tt>
<tt>"/.well-known/est/simpleenroll"</tt>
<tt>"/.well-known/&lt;enrollment-protocol&gt;/&lt;request&gt;"</tt>
<tt>"/fullcmc"</tt> endpoint
<tt>"/simpleenroll"</tt> endpoint

'<tt>est</tt>'
'<tt>cmp</tt>'

<tt>&lt;enrollment-protocol&gt;</tt>
<tt>&lt;request&gt;</tt>
The label <tt>[OPTIONAL forwarding]</tt>

'renewal' option
"tls-unique" value
the tls-unique value (no quotes)
-->


19) <!-- [rfced] Abbreviations:

a.) FYI - We have updated the expansion of LDevID throughout the document
as follows. Please review and let us know of any objections.

Original:
   Locally significant Device IDentifier (LDevID)

Current:
   Local Device Identifier (LDevID)


b.) We note the following expanded forms of "PKI" are used after the
abbreviation is introduced. May we update these instances below to the
abbreviation?

Public-Key Infrastructure
public-key infrastructure


c.) May we update instances of "local RA" to the abbreviation "LRA"?


d.) FYI - We have added expansions for abbreviations upon first use
per Section 3.6 of RFC 7322 ("RFC Style Guide"). Please review each
expansion in the document carefully to ensure correctness.

 Autonomic Control Plane (ACP)
 Certificate Management over CMS (CMC)
 Cryptographic Message Syntax (CMS)
 Constrained Application Protocol (CoAP)
 Simple Certificate Enrollment Protocol (SCEP)
-->


20) <!-- [rfced] Please review the following changes and questions we have
regarding the References section:

a.) [UNISIG-Subset-137] 

The provided URL returns the message: "The requested page could not be found."
We found the following URL from the European Union Agency for Railways (ERA)
website, which matches the specification described in this reference, but it
is a more up-to-date version from May 2023. Would you like to use this version
and URL instead?

<https://www.era.europa.eu/system/files/2023-09/index083_-_SUBSET-137_v400.pdf>

Current:
   [UNISIG-Subset-137]
              UNISIG, "ERTMS/ETCS On-line Key Management FFFIS", Subset-
              137, Version 1.0.0, December 2015,
              <https://www.era.europa.eu/sites/default/files/filesystem/
              ertms/ccs_tsi_annex_a_-_mandatory_specifications/
              set_of_specifications_3_etcs_b3_r2_gsm-r_b1/index083_-
              _subset-137_v100.pdf>.


b.) [BRSKI-AE-OVERVIEW] 

FYI - We have removed the text below from the <annotation> element in this
reference. If you would like to include this note, we recommend placing it in
the document where this reference is cited (rather than in the references
section).

   "Graphics on slide 4 of the status update on the BRSKI-AE draft 04 at IETF 
116."


c.) [IEC-62351-9]

Would you like to update to the newest version of this reference? The cited
version of this reference has been withdrawn. In addition, this version of the
document references the SCEP Internet-Draft rather than RFC 8894 (SCEP). RFC
8894 is cited in the 2023 version.

Current:
   [IEC-62351-9]
              International Electrotechnical Commission, "Power systems
              management and associated information exchange - Data and
              communications security - Part 9: Cyber security key
              management for power system equipment", IEC 62351-9:2017,
              May 2017, <https://webstore.iec.ch/en/publication/30287>.

-->


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Style Guide <https://www.rfc-editor.org/styleguide/part2/#inclusive_language>
and let us know if any changes are needed.  Updates of this nature typically
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Note that our script did not flag any words in particular, but this should 
still be reviewed as a best practice. -->


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RFC9733 (draft-ietf-anima-brski-ae-13)

Title            : BRSKI-AE: Alternative Enrollment Protocols in BRSKI
Author(s)        : D. von Oheimb, S. Fries, H. Brockhaus
WG Chair(s)      : Toerless Eckert, Sheng Jiang

Area Director(s) : Warren Kumari, Mahesh Jethanandani


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