Hi Alice, No, I am not okay with this change but more specifically the last sentence. The introduction of “possibly” is not what was agreed to during review. The original text for the last sentence should stay as-is. I am okay with the other changes.
Jim From: Alice Russo <aru...@staff.rfc-editor.org> Date: Friday, February 7, 2025 at 12:46 PM To: James Guichard <james.n.guich...@futurewei.com> Cc: xiao.m...@zte.com.cn <xiao.m...@zte.com.cn>, 程伟强 <chengweiqi...@chinamobile.com>, zhoutian...@huawei.com <zhoutian...@huawei.com>, 戴锦友 <d...@fiberhome.com>, yoav.peleg <yoav.pe...@broadcom.com>, mpls-ads <mpls-...@ietf.org>, mpls-chairs <mpls-cha...@ietf.org>, Tony Li <tony...@tony.li>, auth48archive@rfc-ed <auth48archive@rfc-editor.org>, RFC Editor <rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org> Subject: AD - Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9714 <draft-ietf-mpls-inband-pm-encapsulation-18> for your review Jim, As AD, please review and let us know if you approve the change in Section 1 detailed below. Thank you. RFC Editor/ar On Feb 6, 2025, at 10:16 AM, Alice Russo <aru...@staff.rfc-editor.org> wrote: > Xiao Min, > > Thank you for your reply. Please review whether the NEW text (based on your > reply) is accurate. To view it in context, please see the files listed below. > > ORIGINAL (the approved I-D): > Note that in parallel to the work of this document, there is ongoing > work on MPLS Network Actions (MNA) [RFC9613]. The MPLS performance > measurement with the Alternate-Marking method can also be achieved by > MNA encapsulation. In addition, MNA will provide a broader use case > applicability. That means the MNA encapsulation is expected to > provide a more advanced solution, when published as an RFC and it is > agreed that this document will be made Historic at that time. > > NEW: > Note that in parallel to the work of this document, there is ongoing > work, e.g., [MNA-PM-with-AMM], regarding MPLS Network Actions (MNAs) > [RFC9613]. The MPLS performance measurement with the Alternate- > Marking Method can also be achieved by MNA encapsulation. In > addition, MNA will provide a broader use-case applicability. That > means the MNA encapsulation is expected to provide a more advanced > solution. If [MNA-PM-with-AMM] is published as an RFC, the status of > this RFC will be reviewed and possibly changed to Historic. > > Added informative reference > > [MNA-PM-with-AMM] > Cheng, W., Min, X., Gandhi, R., and G. Mirsky, "MNA for > Performance Measurement with Alternate Marking Method", > Work in Progress, Internet-Draft, draft-cx-mpls-mna- > inband-pm-05, 21 October 2024, > > <https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdatatracker.ietf.org%2Fdoc%2Fhtml%2Fdraft-cx-mpls-mna-&data=05%7C02%7Cjames.n.guichard%40futurewei.com%7C6459170e23a94c0f1aaf08dd479f6492%7C0fee8ff2a3b240189c753a1d5591fedc%7C1%7C1%7C638745472106627206%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=tSdsdGQ5anvAMRtAqHRm%2FDKqsngQxtKcCB5oY5VHI90%3D&reserved=0 > inband-pm-05>. > > Files available: > > 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<mpls-...@ietf.org>;mpls-chairs <mpls-cha...@ietf.org>;Tony Li > > <tony...@tony.li>;james.n.guichard > > <james.n.guich...@futurewei.com>;auth48archive@rfc-editor.org > > <auth48archive@rfc-editor.org>;RFC Editor <rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org>; > > Date: 2025年02月06日 11:13 > > Subject: question - Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9714 > > <draft-ietf-mpls-inband-pm-encapsulation-18> for your review > > Authors, > > > > As we prepare your document [1] for publication, we have additional > > questions regarding this text. > > > > Section 1: > > Note that in parallel to the work of this document, there is ongoing > > work on MPLS Network Actions (MNAs) [RFC9613]. The MPLS performance > > measurement with the Alternate-Marking Method can also be achieved by > > MNA encapsulation. In addition, MNA will provide a broader use-case > > applicability. That means the MNA encapsulation is expected to > > provide a more advanced solution. Once published as an RFC, it is > > agreed that this document will be made Historic. > > > > Please clarify this paragraph, specifically: > > > > a) Does "ongoing work" refer to draft-ietf-mpls-mna-fwk [2] or RFC 9613? > > The latter seems odd to refer to as "ongoing work". We note that until > > version 17 [3], this sentence cited draft-ietf-mpls-mna-fwk rather than RFC > > 9613 (which was draft-ietf-mpls-mna-requirements): > > > > Note that in parallel to the work of this document, there is ongoing > > work on MPLS Network Actions (MNA) [I-D.ietf-mpls-mna-fwk]. > > [XM]>>> No. The "ongoing work" refers to MNA encapsulation for MPLS PM with > > AMM (e.g., draft-cx-mpls-mna-inband-pm) , neither draft-ietf-mpls-mna-fwk > > nor RFC 9613. Here the reference to RFC 9613 or draft-ietf-mpls-mna-fwk is > > used to clarify what's MNA. > > > > > > > > b) Does "Once published as an RFC" refer to the "ongoing work"? Depending > > on your answer above, perhaps "Once [MNA-FRAMEWORK] is published as an RFC". > > [XM]>>> Yes. However, as I said above, the "ongoing work" is neither > > [MNA-FRAMEWORK] nor [MNA-REQUIREMENTS]. > > > > > > > > c) Regarding "this document will be made Historic", is it accurate that you > > are assuming there will be a Status Change for the present document (RFC > > 9714)? If so, then perhaps it's more clear to say "the status of this RFC > > will be reviewed and possibly changed to Historic"? > > [XM]>>> Yes. I agree the new text you wrote is more clear. > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Xiao Min > > > > > > > > [1] > > https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rfc-editor.org%2Fauthors%2Frfc9714.txt&data=05%7C02%7Cjames.n.guichard%40futurewei.com%7C6459170e23a94c0f1aaf08dd479f6492%7C0fee8ff2a3b240189c753a1d5591fedc%7C1%7C1%7C638745472106733846%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=5evquWx%2BfiXasUx0LybLh5Kn1gDvrq6dlRQ6EyU3W0U%3D&reserved=0<https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9714.txt> > > [and html and pdf] > > [2] > > https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdatatracker.ietf.org%2Fdoc%2Fdraft-ietf-mpls-mna-fwk%2F&data=05%7C02%7Cjames.n.guichard%40futurewei.com%7C6459170e23a94c0f1aaf08dd479f6492%7C0fee8ff2a3b240189c753a1d5591fedc%7C1%7C1%7C638745472106744244%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=PSE9kvPCStEQ2YqFLoLvRl2YENLSosIkFc32yDNOVhk%3D&reserved=0<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-mna-fwk/> > > (in the RFC Editor queue in EDIT state) > > [3] > > https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ietf.org%2Farchive%2Fid%2Fdraft-ietf-mpls-inband-pm-encapsulation-17...txt&data=05%7C02%7Cjames.n.guichard%40futurewei.com%7C6459170e23a94c0f1aaf08dd479f6492%7C0fee8ff2a3b240189c753a1d5591fedc%7C1%7C1%7C638745472106754665%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=wmYA6IrLCiJQpcHTxwGVvPS8MExnvHs9qhYY0Qr4sYg%3D&reserved=0<https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-mpls-inband-pm-encapsulation-17...txt> > > > > Thank you. > > RFC Editor/ar
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