Hi Warren,

Thank you for your quick reply. We have noted your approval on the AUTH48 
status page for this document (https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9715).

We now await approvals (or further updates if needed) from Kazunori and Paul.

Best regards,
RFC Editor/kc

> On Jan 22, 2025, at 10:40 AM, Warren Kumari <war...@kumari.net> wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Jan 21, 2025 at 6:05 PM, Karen Moore <kmo...@staff.rfc-editor.org> 
> wrote:
> Dear Kazunori and *Warren (AD), 
> 
> We have made your suggested update (see Appendix C.1). Please review the 
> updated file and let us know if any further changes are needed or if you 
> approve the document in its current form. 
> 
> *Warren, please review the following update (removal of text) and let us know 
> if you approve. The change is highlighted below and can also be viewed here: 
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9715-auth48diff.html. 
> 
> Yes, thank you, I approve.
> 
> W
> 
> 
> OLD: 
> For R5, BIND 9 uses the edns-buf-size option, with the default of 1232.
> 
> BIND 9 does implement R6. 
> 
> For R7, after two UDP timeouts, BIND 9 will fall back to TCP. 
> 
> 
> NEW: 
> For R5, BIND 9 uses the edns-buf-size option, with the default of 1232.
> 
> For R7, after two UDP timeouts, BIND 9 will fall back to TCP. 
> 
> —Files (please refresh)— 
> 
> 
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> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9715.xml
> 
> 
> The updated output files are here: 
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> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9715.pdf 
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9715.html
> 
> This diff file shows all changes made during AUTH48: 
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> 
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> 
> 
> This diff file shows all changes made to date: 
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> 
> 
> Best regards, 
> RFC Editor/kc
> 
> On Jan 21, 2025, at 12:54 AM, Kazunori Fujiwara <fujiw...@jprs.co.jp> wrote: 
> 
> Dear RFC Editor, 
> 
> 
> Current version is almost OK for me. 
> I would like to make an edit to remove one line.
> 
> 
> Please remove a line at Appendix C.1. 
> Current: BIND 9 does implement R6 (Section 3.2).
> 
> I attach edited XML file. 
> 
> Regards, 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Kazunori Fujiwara, JPRS <fujiw...@jprs.co.jp>
> 
> From: Karen Moore <kmo...@staff.rfc-editor.org> Dear Kazunori and Paul, 
> 
> Thank you for your replies. We have updated our files based on your feedback. 
> Note that we updated “EDNS0” to “EDNS(0)”and the recommendation numbers to 
> reflect “R#”. Please review the changes (especially Appendix C.1 to ensure we 
> updated the text as desired), and let us know if any further updates are 
> needed or if you approve the document in its current form. 
> 
> —Files— 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
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> 
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> publication process. 
> 
> For the AUTH48 status of this document, please see: 
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9715 
> 
> 
> Thank you, 
> RFC Editor/kc
> 
> On Jan 16, 2025, at 2:20 AM, Kazunori Fujiwara via auth48archive 
> <auth48archive@rfc-editor.org> wrote: 
> 
> Dear RFC Editor, 
> 
> Thanks very much for your excellent rewrites. 
> 
> I will answer in-line as a first, quick response to proceed. 
> 
> 
> From: rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org 
> Authors,
> 
> While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as necessary) 
> the following questions, which are also in the XML file. 
> 
> 1) <!--[rfced] We have updated the short title that spans the header of the 
> PDF file from "avoid-fragmentation" to "Avoid IP Fragmentation". Please 
> review and let us know if any further changes are desired. 
> 
> 
> Original: 
> avoid-fragmentation
> 
> 
> Current: 
> Avoid IP Fragmentation 
> -->
> 
> Agree. 
> 
> 2) <!-- [rfced] Please insert any keywords (beyond those that appear in the 
> title) for use on https://www.rfc-editor.org/search. --> 
> 
> I think "DNS" and "IP Fragmentation" are key words. 
> 
> Some RFCs that show attack countermeasures include "attack". 
> 
> 3) <!--[rfced] How may we make these sentences clearer? Specifically, what 
> does "other end" refer to in "keep it within the other end's MSS" - is it the 
> other end of the segment? Also, does "as to how much queued data will fit" 
> mean "depending on how much queued data will fit"? Please advise. 
> 
> 
> Original: 
> For each transmitted segment, the size of the IP and TCP headers is known, 
> and the IP packet size can be chosen to keep it within the estimated MTU and 
> the other end's MSS. This takes advantage of the elasticity of TCP's 
> packetizing process as to how much queued data will fit into the next segment.
> 
> 
> Perhaps: 
> For each transmitted segment, the size of the IP and TCP headers is known, 
> and the IP packet size can be chosen to keep it within the estimated MTU and 
> the MSS of the other end of the segment. This takes advantage of the 
> elasticity of the TCP's packetizing process, depending on how much queued 
> data will fit into the next segment. 
> -->
> 
> The proposed text is roughly fine, but I think it would be better to delete 
> "of the segment" from "the MSS of the other end of the segment." 
> 
> 4) <!-- [rfced] FYI: In Section 2, we placed the definitions that are direct 
> quotes within the <blockquote> element, and we updated the text slightly to 
> exactly match the quoted text in RFCs 6891 and 8201. Please review and let us 
> know of any concerns. 
> 
> 
> Original: 
> "Requestor" refers to the side that sends a request. "Responder" refers to an 
> authoritative server, recursive resolver or other DNS component that responds 
> to questions. (Quoted from EDNS0 [RFC6891])
> 
> "Path MTU" is the minimum link MTU of all the links in a path between a 
> source node and a destination node. (Quoted from [RFC8201]) 
> 
> 
> Current: 
> The definitions of "requestor" and "responder" are per [RFC6891]:
> 
> "Requestor" refers to the side that sends a request. "Responder" refers to an 
> authoritative, recursive resolver or other DNS component that responds to 
> questions. 
> 
> The definition of "path MTU" is per [RFC8201]: 
> 
> 
> path MTU [is] the minimum link MTU of all the links in a path between a 
> source node and a destination node. 
> -->
> 
> Agree. 
> 
> 5) <!--[rfced] Section 3.2. We find the use of "should/may" confusing. Is 
> using only "should" or "may" acceptable? Please advise. 
> 
> 
> Original: 
> R6. UDP requestors should/may drop fragmented DNS/UDP responses without IP 
> reassembly to avoid cache poisoning attacks (at firewall function).
> 
> 
> Perhaps: 
> R6. UDP requestors may drop fragmented DNS/UDP responses without IP 
> reassembly to avoid cache poisoning attacks (at the firewall function). 
> -->
> 
> This draft is "Informational". Then, ideally, please change to "should". 
> 
> 6) <!-- [rfced] For clarity, may we update the following sentence as shown 
> below since some of the text is a direct quote from RFC 8085? 
> 
> 
> Current: 
> In Section 3.2 (Message Side Guidelines) of UDP Usage Guidelines [RFC8085] we 
> are told that an application SHOULD NOT send UDP datagrams that result in IP 
> packets that exceed the Maximum Transmission Unit (MTU) along the path to the 
> destination.
> 
> 
> Perhaps: 
> Section 3.2 of [RFC8085] states that "an application SHOULD NOT send UDP 
> datagrams that result in IP packets that exceed the Maximum Transmission Unit 
> (MTU) along the path to the destination". 
> -->
> 
> Agree. 
> 
> 7) <!-- [rfced] Informative Reference URLs 
> 
> 
> a) We found the following URL for [Brandt2018]: 
> https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3243734.3243790. 
> May we update this reference to use this URL?
> 
> 
> Original: 
> [Brandt2018] 
> Brandt, M., Dai, T., Klein, A., Shulman, H., and M. Waidner, "Domain 
> Validation++ For MitM-Resilient PKI", Proceedings of the 2018 ACM SIGSAC 
> Conference on Computer and Communications Security , 2018.
> 
> 
> Perhaps: 
> [Brandt2018] 
> Brandt, M., Dai, T., Klein, A., Shulman, H., and M. Waidner, "Domain 
> Validation++ For MitM-Resilient PKI", Proceedings of the 2018 ACM SIGSAC 
> Conference on Computer and Communications Security, pp. 2060-2076, 
> DOI 10.1145/3243734.3243790, October 2018, 
> <https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3243734.3243790>.
> 
> 
> b) We found the following URL for [Herzberg2013]: 
> https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/6682711. 
> May we update this reference to use this URL?
> 
> 
> Original: 
> [Herzberg2013] 
> Herzberg, A. and H. Shulman, "Fragmentation Considered Poisonous", IEEE 
> Conference on Communications and Network Security , 2013.
> 
> 
> Perhaps: 
> [Herzberg2013] 
> Herzberg, A. and H. Shulman, "Fragmentation Considered Poisonous, or: 
> One-domain-to-rule-them-all.org", IEEE Conference on Communications and 
> Network Security (CNS), DOI 10.1109/CNS.2013.6682711, 2013, 
> <https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/6682711>.
> 
> 
> c) We found the following URL for [Fujiwara2018]: 
> https://indico.dns-oarc.net/event/31/contributions/692/ 
> attachments/660/1115/fujiwara-5.pdf. May we update this reference to use this 
> URL?
> 
> 
> Original: 
> [Fujiwara2018] 
> Fujiwara, K., "Measures against cache poisoning attacks using IP 
> fragmentation in DNS", OARC 30 Workshop , 2019.
> 
> 
> Perhaps: 
> [Fujiwara2018] 
> Fujiwara, K., "Measures against DNS cache poisoning attacks using IP 
> fragmentation", OARC 30 Workshop, 2019, 
> <https://indico.dns-oarc.net/event/31/contributions/692/ 
> attachments/660/1115/fujiwara-5.pdf>.
> 
> 
> d) We found the following URL for [Huston2021]: 
> https://indico.dns-oarc.net/event/37/contributions/806/ 
> attachments/782/1366/2021-02-04-dns-flag.pdf. May we add this URL to the 
> reference?
> 
> 
> Original: 
> [Huston2021] 
> Huston, G. and J. Damas, "Measuring DNS Flag Day 2020", OARC 34 Workshop , 
> February 2021.
> 
> 
> Perhaps: 
> [Huston2021] 
> Huston, G. and J. Damas, "Measuring DNS Flag Day 2020", OARC 34 Workshop, 
> February 2021, <https://indico.dns-oarc.net/ 
> event/37/contributions/806/attachments/782/1366/2021-02-04-dns-flag.pdf> 
> -->
> 
> I agree all fixes. 
> 
> 8) <!--[rfced] FYI: To match the quoted text in Section 3 of RFC 4035, we 
> updated the text below to include a reference to RFC 2671, and we listed RFC 
> 2671 as an informative reference. 
> 
> 
> Original: 
> [RFC4035] defines that "A security-aware name server MUST support the EDNS0 
> message size extension, MUST support a message size of at least 1220 octets".
> 
> 
> Current: 
> [RFC4035] states that "A security-aware name server MUST support the EDNS0 
> ([RFC2671]) message size extension, [and it] MUST support a message size of 
> at least 1220 octets". 
> -->
> 
> Agree. 
> 
> 
> 9) <!--[rfced] Regarding Appendix C ("Known Implementations"), is it your 
> intention that this section remain in the RFC? The reason we ask is because 
> RFC 7942 recommends removing it but also states that it is not mandatory to 
> remove it. 
> -->
> 
> This document was changed from BCP to Informational due to implementation 
> concerns. I would like to keep Appendix C since it is relevant in this 
> situation. 
> 
> 10) <!--[rfced] Since this document is "Informational", is it correct to 
> state that this specification defines "best practices", or does this text 
> need an update to avoid any confusion? 
> 
> 
> Original: 
> This section records the status of known implementations of these best 
> practices defined by this specification at the time of publication, and any 
> deviation from the specification. 
> -->
> 
> This part remains the same as when the intended status was BCP. It is an 
> oversight. 
> 
> Please change "best practices defined by this specification" as "proposed 
> recommendations described in Section 3". 
> 
> 11) <!-- [rfced] Appendix C.1 
> 
> 
> a) We notice inconsistencies with the recommendation numbers, for example, 
> "recommendation R6", "recommendation 2", and "R5". May we use "R#" for 
> consistency below and throughout the document? Please let us know your 
> preference.
> 
> 
> Authors intended R# to be unique and consistent in the document. However, 
> part of Appendix C were forgotten to be updated. We need to refer 
> draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation-12, 
> "Appendix D. Known Implementations" first appeared.
> 
> b) We find "the first recommendation of Section 3.2" and "recommendation 2 of 
> Section 3.2" (which should be "R6") confusing. For clarity, may we add 
> section numbers for the recommendation numbers that do not have them and 
> update the text as shown below? 
> 
> Since R# is unique, the section number may not be necessary. 
> 
> c) Please confirm if "recommendation 3" in the last entry is referring to R7 
> of Section 3.2. 
> 
> 
> Original: 
> BIND 9 does not implement the recommendations 1 and 2 in Section 3.1
> 
> For recommendation 3, BIND 9 will honor the requestor's size up to the 
> configured limit (max-udp-size)... 
> 
> In the case of recommendation 4, and the send fails with EMSGSIZE, BIND 9 set 
> the TC bit and try to send a minimal answer again. 
> 
> In the first recommendation of Section 3.2, BIND 9 uses the edns-buf-size 
> option, with the default of 1232. 
> 
> BIND 9 does implement recommendation 2 of Section 3.2. 
> 
> For recommendation 3, after two UDP timeouts, BIND 9 will fall back to TCP. 
> 
> 
> Perhaps: 
> BIND 9 does not implement R1 and R2 in Section 3.1.
> 
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^remove 
> 
> For R3 (Section 3.1), BIND 9 will honor the requestor's size up to 
> 
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^remove 
> 
> the configured limit (max-udp-size)... 
> 
> In the case of R4 (Section 3.1) and the send fails with EMSGSIZE, 
> 
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^remove 
> 
> BIND 9 sets the TC bit and tries to send a minimal answer again. 
> 
> For R5 (Section 3.2), BIND 9 uses the edns-buf-size 
> 
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^remove 
> 
> option, with the default of 1232. 
> 
> BIND 9 does implement R6 (Section 3.2). 
> 
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ remove 
> 
> For R7 (Section 3.2), after two UDP timeouts, BIND 9 will fall back 
> 
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^remove 
> 
> to TCP. 
> 
> c) How may we update this sentence for clarity? Does BIND 9 cause IP_DONTFRAG 
> to be disabled? If so, may we add "When" as shown below? 
> 
> 
> Original: 
> BIND 9 on systems with IP_DONTFRAG (such as FreeBSD), IP_DONTFRAG is disabled.
> 
> 
> Perhaps: 
> When BIND 9 is on systems with IP_DONTFRAG (such as FreeBSD), IP_DONTFRAG is 
> disabled. 
> -->
> 
> Agree. 
> 
> 12) <!--[rfced] May we make the first three bulleted items into complete 
> sentences for clarity? Also, is "Spoofing nearmisses" a specific term, or may 
> we add a space to "nearmisses" per its dictionary spelling? And does this 
> quoted term need a reference for background, or will readers be familiar with 
> it? 
> 
> 
> Original: 
> * IP_PMTUDISC_OMIT with fallback to IP_PMTUDISC_DONT
> 
> * default EDNS buffer size of 1232, no probing for smaller sizes 
> 
> * no handling of EMSGSIZE 
> 
> * Recursor: UDP timeouts do not cause a switch to TCP. "Spoofing nearmisses" 
> do. 
> 
> 
> Perhaps: 
> * Use IP_PMTUDISC_OMIT with fallback to IP_PMTUDISC_DONT
> 
> * The default EDNS buffer size is 1232; no probing for smaller sizes. 
> 
> * There is no handling of EMSGSIZE. 
> 
> 
> * Recursor: UDP timeouts do not cause a switch to TCP; "Spoofing near misses" 
> do. 
> -->
> 
> Agree. 
> 
> 
> 13) <!--[rfced] Please clarify what "if that is smaller" means as the text 
> states that Unbound requests size 1232 and then it retries with a smaller 
> size of 1232 for IPv6, which is confusing. Is the intended meaning perhaps 
> that Unbound retries with a smaller size 
> "if applicable"? Also, please clarify the intended meaning of 
> "anything" in "This does not do anything".
> 
> 
> Additionally, should a citation be included for "flag day", either 
> [DNSFlagDay2020] or [Huston2021], for easy reference?
> 
> Note that the preceding sentence is included for context. 
> 
> 
> Original: 
> Unbound requests UDP size 1232 from peers, by default. The requestors size is 
> limited to a max of 1232.
> 
> After some timeouts, Unbound retries with a smaller size, if that is smaller, 
> at size 1232 for IPv6 and 1472 for IPv4. This does not do anything since the 
> flag day change to 1232. 
> 
> 
> Perhaps: 
> Unbound requests a UDP size of 1232 from peers, by default. The requestor's 
> size is limited to a max of 1232.
> 
> 
> After some timeouts, Unbound retries with a smaller size, if applicable, or 
> at size 1232 for IPv6 and 1472 for IPv4. This does not cause any negative 
> effects due to the "flag day" [DNSFlagDay2020] change to 1232. 
> -->
> 
> Agree. 
> 
> 14) <!--[rfced] May we update this sentence as follows for clarity? 
> 
> 
> Original: 
> Unbound has minimal responses as an option, default on.
> 
> 
> Perhaps: 
> Unbound has the 'minimal responses' configuration option; set default on. 
> -->
> 
> Agree. 
> 
> 15) <!-- [rfced] In the html and pdf outputs, the text enclosed in <tt> is 
> output in fixed-width font. In the txt output, there are no changes to the 
> font, and the quotation marks have been removed. 
> 
> 
> Please review carefully and let us know if the output is acceptable or if any 
> updates are needed. 
> -->
> 
> I will check this next revision. 
> 
> 16) <!-- [rfced] Terminology 
> 
> a) Throughout the text, the following terminology appears to be used 
> inconsistently. Please review these occurrences and let us know if/how they 
> may be made consistent. 
> 
> 
> Don't Fragment flag (DF) bit vs. Don't Fragment (DF) bit 
> [Note: Should this be "Don't Fragment (DF) flag bit" per RFC 0791?]
> 
> 
> More Fragments (MF) bit 
> [Note: Should this be "More Fragments (MF) flag bit" for consistency?]
> 
> Yes. Please choose RFC 0791 style. 
> 
> b) We made the following updates for consistency. Please let us know of any 
> objections. 
> 
> 
> Additional Section -> Additional section (per RFCs 1035 and 9460) 
> [Note: RFC 2782 uses "Additional Data section"; please let us know if the 
> current text is okay or if it should include 
> "data".]
> 
> 
> Path MTU discovery -> Path MTU Discovery (per RFC 8201) Path MTU -> path MTU 
> (per RFC 8201) 
> -->
> 
> Agree. 
> 
> 17) <!-- [rfced] Abbreviations 
> 
> a) FYI - We have added expansions for the following abbreviations per Section 
> 3.6 of RFC 7322 ("RFC Style Guide"). Please review each expansion in the 
> document carefully to ensure correctness. 
> 
> 
> Elliptic Curve Digital Signature Algorithm (ECDSA) Edwards-curve Digital 
> Signature Algorithm (EdDSA) Service Binding (SVCB) 
> Resource Record (RR)
> 
> OK for me. 
> 
> 
> b) We notice that this document as well as RFCs 8900 and 9471 use 
> "EDNS0" but RFC 6891 uses "EDNS(0)". Please let us know if using 
> "EDNS0" is preferred or if you would like to use "EDNS(0)".
> 
> 
> Current: 
> Extension Mechanisms for DNS (EDNS0)
> 
> 
> Perhaps: 
> Extension Mechanisms for DNS (EDNS(0))
> 
> 
> Both are OK for me. 
> need to discuss with co-author.
> 
> 
> c) We do not see "XDP" used in any other RFCs. Does "XDP" stand for something 
> (i.e., can it be expanded)?
> 
> 
> Current: 
> Fragments are ignored if they arrive over an XDP interface. 
> -->
> 
> 
> This section contains verbatim text from each implementer, so there may be 
> some inconsistencies in the text. 
> Regarding XDP, how about "Linux XDP" ?
> 
> 18) <!-- [rfced] Please review the "Inclusive Language" portion of the online 
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> and let us know if any changes are needed. Updates of this nature typically 
> result in more precise language, which is helpful for readers. 
> 
> 
> Note that our script did not flag any words in particular, but this should 
> still be reviewed as a best practice. 
> -->
> 
> 
> I will need to work next weeks... 
> But now, I could not retrieve NIST document now. 
> https://nvlpubs.nist.gov/nistpubs/ir/2021/NIST.IR.8366.pdf 
> -> 503 Service Unavailable
> 
> Regards, 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Kazunori Fujiwara, JPRS <fujiw...@jprs.co.jp>
> 
> Thank you. 
> 
> RFC Editor/kc 
> 
> On Jan 13, 2025, at 6:41 PM, rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org wrote: 
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> RFC9715 (draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation-20)
> 
> 
> Title : IP Fragmentation Avoidance in DNS over UDP Author(s) : K. Fujiwara, 
> P. Vixie 
> WG Chair(s) : Suzanne Woolf, Benno Overeinder, Tim Wicinski
> 
> Area Director(s) : Warren Kumari, Mahesh Jethanandani 
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> <rfc xmlns:xi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XInclude"; ipr="trust200902" 
> docName="draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation-20" number="9715" 
> category="info" consensus="true" submissionType="IETF" tocDepth="4" 
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> version="3" xml:lang="en"> 
> 
> 
> <front> 
> <title abbrev="Avoid IP Fragmentation">IP Fragmentation Avoidance in DNS over 
> UDP</title> 
> <seriesInfo name="RFC" value="9715"/> 
> <author initials="K." surname="Fujiwara" fullname="Kazunori Fujiwara"> 
> <organization abbrev="JPRS">Japan Registry Services Co., Ltd.</organization> 
> <address> 
> <postal> 
> <street>Chiyoda First Bldg. East 13F, 3-8-1 Nishi-Kanda</street> 
> <region>Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo</region> 
> <code>101-0065</code> 
> <country>Japan</country> 
> </postal> 
> <phone>+81 3 5215 8451</phone> 
> <email>fujiw...@jprs.co.jp</email> 
> </address> 
> </author> 
> <author initials="P." surname="Vixie" fullname="Paul Vixie"> 
> <organization>AWS Security</organization> 
> <address> 
> <postal> 
> <street>11400 La Honda Road</street> 
> <city>Woodside</city> 
> <region>CA</region> 
> <code>94062</code> 
> <country>United States of America</country> 
> </postal> 
> <phone>+1 650 393 3994</phone> 
> <email>p...@redbarn.org</email> 
> </address> 
> </author> 
> <date year="2025" month="January"/> 
> <area>OPS</area> 
> <workgroup>dnsop</workgroup>
> 
> 
> <abstract> 
> <t>The widely 
> deployed Extension Mechanisms for DNS (EDNS(0)) feature in the DNS enables a 
> DNS receiver to indicate its received UDP message size capacity, which 
> supports the sending of large UDP responses by a DNS server. 
> Large DNS/UDP messages are more likely to be fragmented, and IP fragmentation 
> has exposed weaknesses in application protocols. It is possible to avoid IP 
> fragmentation in DNS by limiting the response size where possible and 
> signaling the need to upgrade from UDP to TCP transport where necessary. 
> This document describes techniques to avoid IP fragmentation in DNS.</t> 
> </abstract> 
> </front> 
> <middle> 
> <?line 142?>
> 
> 
> <section anchor="introduction"> 
> <name>Introduction</name> 
> <t>This document was originally intended to be a Best Current Practice, but 
> due to operating system and socket option limitations, some of the 
> recommendations have not yet gained real-world experience; therefore, this 
> document is Informational. 
> It is expected that, as operating systems and implementations evolve, we will 
> gain more experience with the recommendations and will publish an updated 
> document as a Best Current Practice in the future.</t> 
> <t>DNS has an EDNS(0) mechanism <xref target="RFC6891"/>. The widely deployed 
> EDNS(0) feature in the DNS enables a DNS receiver to indicate its received 
> UDP message size capacity, which supports the sending of large UDP responses 
> by a DNS server. 
> DNS over UDP invites IP fragmentation when a packet is larger than the 
> Maximum Transmission Unit (MTU) of some network in the packet's path.</t> 
> <t>Fragmented DNS UDP responses have systemic weaknesses, which expose the 
> requestor to DNS cache poisoning from off-path attackers (see <xref 
> target="ProblemOfFragmentation"/> for references and details).</t> 
> <t><xref target="RFC8900"/> states that IP fragmentation introduces fragility 
> to Internet communication. 
> The transport of DNS messages 
> over UDP should take account of the observations stated in that document.</t> 
> <t>TCP avoids fragmentation by segmenting data into packets that are smaller 
> than or equal to the Maximum Segment Size (MSS). For each transmitted 
> segment, the size of the IP and TCP headers is known, and the IP packet size 
> can be chosen to keep it within the estimated MTU and the MSS. This takes 
> advantage of the elasticity of the TCP's packetizing process, depending on 
> how much queued data will fit into the next segment. In contrast, DNS over 
> UDP has little datagram size elasticity and lacks insight into IP header and 
> option size, so we must make more conservative estimates about available UDP 
> payload space.</t> 
> <t><xref target="RFC7766"/> states that all general-purpose DNS 
> implementations <bcp14>MUST</bcp14> support both UDP and TCP transport.</t>
> 
> 
> <t>DNS transaction security <xref target="RFC8945"/> <xref target="RFC2931"/> 
> does protect against the security risks of fragmentation, and it protects 
> delegation responses. But <xref target="RFC8945"/> has limited applicability 
> due to key distribution requirements, and there is little if any deployment 
> of <xref target="RFC2931"/>.</t> 
> <t>This document describes various techniques to avoid IP fragmentation of 
> UDP packets in DNS. 
> This document is primarily applicable to DNS use on the global Internet.</t> 
> <t>In contrast, a path MTU that deviates from the recommended value might be 
> obtained through static configuration, server routing hints, or a future 
> discovery protocol. However, addressing this falls outside the scope of this 
> document and may be the subject of future specifications.</t> 
> </section> 
> <section anchor="terminology"> 
> <name>Terminology</name> 
> <t> 
> The key words "<bcp14>MUST</bcp14>", "<bcp14>MUST NOT</bcp14>", 
> "<bcp14>REQUIRED</bcp14>", "<bcp14>SHALL</bcp14>", "<bcp14>SHALL 
> NOT</bcp14>", "<bcp14>SHOULD</bcp14>", "<bcp14>SHOULD NOT</bcp14>", 
> "<bcp14>RECOMMENDED</bcp14>", "<bcp14>NOT RECOMMENDED</bcp14>", 
> "<bcp14>MAY</bcp14>", and "<bcp14>OPTIONAL</bcp14>" in this document are to 
> be interpreted as described in BCP&nbsp;14 <xref target="RFC2119"/> <xref 
> target="RFC8174"/> when, and only when, they appear in all capitals, as shown 
> here. 
> </t>
> 
> <t>The definitions of "requestor" and "responder" are per <xref 
> target="RFC6891"/>:</t> 
> 
> 
> <blockquote> 
> "Requestor" refers to the side that sends a request. "Responder" refers to an 
> authoritative, recursive resolver or other DNS component that responds to 
> questions.</blockquote>
> 
> 
> <t>The definition of "path MTU" is per <xref target="RFC8201"/>:</t> 
> <blockquote>path MTU [is] the minimum link MTU of all the links in a path 
> between a source node and a destination node.</blockquote>
> 
> 
> <t>In this document, the term "Path MTU Discovery" includes both Classical 
> Path MTU Discovery <xref target="RFC1191"/> <xref target="RFC8201"/> and 
> Packetization Layer Path MTU Discovery <xref target="RFC8899"/>.</t> 
> <t>Many of the specialized terms used in this document are defined in 
> "DNS Terminology" <xref target="RFC9499"/>.</t> 
> </section> 
> <section anchor="recommendation"> 
> <name>How to Avoid IP Fragmentation in DNS</name> 
> <t>These recommendations are intended 
> for nodes with global IP addresses on the Internet. Private networks or local 
> networks are out of the scope of this document.</t> 
> <t>The methods to avoid IP fragmentation in DNS are described below:</t> 
> <section anchor="RecommendationsResponders"> 
> <name>Proposed Recommendations for UDP Responders</name> <dl spacing="normal" 
> newline="false" indent="7"> 
> <dt>R1.</dt><dd>UDP responders should not use IPv6 fragmentation 
> <xref target="RFC8200"/>.</dd> 
> <dt>R2.</dt><dd><t>UDP responders should configure their systems to prevent 
> fragmentation of UDP packets when sending replies, provided it can be done 
> safely. The mechanisms to achieve this vary across different operating 
> systems.</t>
> 
> 
> <t>For BSD-like operating systems, the IP Don't Fragment (DF) flag bit <xref 
> target="RFC0791"/> can be used to prevent fragmentation. In contrast, Linux 
> systems do not expose a direct API for this purpose and require the use of 
> Path MTU socket options 
> (IP_MTU_DISCOVER) to manage fragmentation settings. However, it is important 
> to note that enabling IPv4 Path MTU Discovery for UDP in current Linux 
> versions is considered harmful and dangerous. For more details, see <xref 
> target="impl"/>.</t></dd> 
> <dt>R3.</dt><dd>UDP responders should compose response packets that fit in 
> the minimum of the offered requestor's maximum UDP payload size <xref 
> target="RFC6891"/>, the interface MTU, the network MTU value configured by 
> the knowledge of the network operators, and the 
> <bcp14>RECOMMENDED</bcp14> maximum DNS/UDP payload size 1400. For more 
> details, see 
> <xref target="details"/>.</dd> 
> <dt>R4.</dt><dd>If the UDP responder detects an immediate error indicating 
> that the UDP packet exceeds the path MTU size, the UDP responder may recreate 
> response packets that fit in the path MTU size or with the TC bit set.</dd> 
> </dl> 
> <t>The cause and effect of the TC bit are unchanged <xref 
> target="RFC1035"/>.</t> 
> </section> 
> <section anchor="RecommendationsRequestors"> 
> <name>Proposed Recommendations for UDP Requestors</name> <dl spacing="normal" 
> newline="false" indent="7"> 
> <dt>R5.</dt><dd>UDP requestors should limit the requestor's maximum UDP 
> payload size to fit in the minimum of the interface MTU, the network MTU 
> value configured by the network operators, and the 
> <bcp14>RECOMMENDED</bcp14> maximum DNS/UDP payload size 1400. A smaller limit 
> may be allowed. For more details, see <xref target="details"/>.</dd>
> 
> 
> <dt>R6.</dt><dd>UDP requestors should drop fragmented DNS/UDP responses 
> without IP reassembly to avoid cache poisoning attacks (at the firewall 
> function).</dd> 
> <dt>R7.</dt><dd>DNS responses may be dropped by IP fragmentation. It is 
> recommended that requestors eventually try alternative transport 
> protocols.</dd> </dl> 
> </section> 
> </section> 
> <section anchor="RecommendationOperators"> 
> <name>Proposed Recommendations for DNS Operators</name> 
> <t>Large DNS responses are typically the result of zone configuration. People 
> who publish information in the DNS should seek configurations resulting in 
> small responses. For example:</t> 
> <dl spacing="normal" newline="false" indent="7"> <dt>R8.</dt><dd>Use a 
> smaller number of name servers.</dd> <dt>R9.</dt><dd>Use a smaller number of 
> A/AAAA RRs for a domain name.</dd> <dt>R10.</dt><dd>Use minimal-responses 
> configuration: Some implementations have a 'minimal responses' configuration 
> option that causes DNS servers to make response packets smaller by containing 
> only mandatory and required data (<xref target="minimal-responses"/>).</dd> 
> <dt>R11.</dt><dd>Use a smaller signature / public key size algorithm for 
> DNSSEC. Notably, the signature sizes of the Elliptic Curve Digital Signature 
> Algorithm (ECDSA) and Edwards-curve Digital Signature Algorithm (EdDSA) are 
> smaller than those of equivalent cryptographic strength using RSA.</dd> 
> </dl> 
> <t>It is difficult to determine a specific upper limit for R8, R9, and R11, 
> but it is sufficient if all responses from the DNS servers are below the size 
> of R3 and R5.</t> 
> </section> 
> <section anchor="protocol"> 
> <name>Protocol Compliance Considerations</name> 
> <t>Some authoritative servers deviate from the DNS standard as follows:</t> 
> <ul spacing="normal"> 
> <li> 
> <t>Some authoritative servers ignore the EDNS(0) requestor's maximum UDP 
> payload size and return large UDP responses <xref 
> target="Fujiwara2018"/>.</t> 
> </li> 
> <li> 
> <t>Some authoritative servers do not support TCP transport.</t> 
> </li> 
> </ul> 
> <t>Such non-compliant behavior cannot become implementation or configuration 
> constraints for the rest of the DNS. If failure is the result, then that 
> failure must be localized to the non-compliant servers.</t> 
> </section> 
> <section anchor="iana"> 
> <name>IANA Considerations</name> 
> <t>This document has no IANA actions.</t> 
> </section> 
> <section anchor="securitycons"> 
> <name>Security Considerations</name> 
> <section anchor="on-path-fragmentation-on-ipv4"> 
> <name>On-Path Fragmentation on IPv4</name> 
> <t>If the Don't Fragment (DF) flag bit is not set, on-path fragmentation may 
> happen on IPv4, 
> and it can lead to vulnerabilities as shown in <xref 
> target="ProblemOfFragmentation"/>. To avoid this, R6 needs to be used to 
> discard the fragmented responses and retry using TCP.</t> 
> </section> 
> <section anchor="small-mtu-network"> 
> <name>Small MTU Network</name> 
> <t>When avoiding fragmentation, 
> a DNS/UDP requestor behind a small MTU network may experience UDP timeouts, 
> which would reduce performance 
> and may lead to TCP fallback. 
> This would indicate prior reliance upon IP fragmentation, which is considered 
> to be harmful 
> to both the performance and stability of applications, endpoints, and 
> gateways. Avoiding IP fragmentation will improve operating conditions 
> overall, and the performance of DNS/TCP has increased and will continue to 
> increase.</t> 
> <t>If a UDP response packet is dropped in transit, up to and including the 
> network stack of the initiator, it increases the attack window for poisoning 
> the requestor's cache.</t> 
> </section> 
> <section anchor="ProblemOfFragmentation"> 
> <name>Weaknesses of IP Fragmentation</name> 
> <t>"Fragmentation Considered Poisonous" <xref target="Herzberg2013"/> notes 
> effective off-path DNS cache poisoning attack vectors using IP fragmentation. 
> "IP fragmentation attack on DNS" <xref target="Hlavacek2013"/> and "Domain 
> Validation++ For MitM-Resilient PKI" <xref target="Brandt2018"/> note that 
> off-path attackers can intervene in the Path MTU Discovery <xref 
> target="RFC1191"/> to cause authoritative servers to produce fragmented 
> responses. 
> <xref target="RFC7739"/> states the security implications of predictable 
> fragment identification values.</t>
> 
> 
> <t><xref section="3.2" sectionFormat="of" target="RFC8085"/> states that 
> "an application <bcp14>SHOULD NOT</bcp14> send UDP datagrams that result in 
> IP packets that exceed the Maximum Transmission Unit (MTU) along the path to 
> the destination".</t> 
> <t>A DNS message receiver cannot trust fragmented UDP datagrams primarily due 
> to the small amount of entropy provided by UDP port numbers and DNS message 
> identifiers, each of which is only 16 bits in size, and both are likely to be 
> in the first fragment of a packet if fragmentation occurs. By comparison, the 
> TCP protocol stack controls packet size and avoids IP fragmentation under 
> ICMP NEEDFRAG attacks. In TCP, fragmentation should be avoided for 
> performance reasons, whereas for UDP, fragmentation should be avoided for 
> resiliency and authenticity reasons.</t> 
> </section> 
> <section anchor="dns-security-protections"> 
> <name>DNS Security Protections</name> 
> <t>DNSSEC is a countermeasure against cache poisoning attacks that use IP 
> fragmentation. 
> However, DNS delegation responses are not signed with DNSSEC, and DNSSEC does 
> not have a mechanism to get the correct response if an incorrect delegation 
> is injected. This is a denial-of-service vulnerability that can yield failed 
> name resolutions. If cache poisoning attacks can be avoided, 
> DNSSEC validation failures will be avoided.</t> 
> </section> 
> <section anchor="possible-actions-for-resolver-operators"> 
> <name>Possible Actions for Resolver Operators</name> 
> <t>Because this document is published as Informational rather than a Best 
> Current Practice, 
> this section presents steps that resolver operators can take to avoid 
> vulnerabilities related to IP fragmentation.</t> 
> <t>To avoid vulnerabilities related to IP fragmentation, implement R5 and 
> R6.</t>
> 
> 
> <t>Specifically, configure the firewall functions protecting the full-service 
> resolver to discard incoming DNS response packets 
> with a non-zero Fragment Offset (FO) or a More Fragments (MF) flag bit of 1 
> on IPv4, and discard packets with IPv6 Fragment Headers. 
> (If the resolver's IP address is not dedicated to the DNS resolver and uses 
> UDP communication that relies on IP Fragmentation for purposes other than 
> DNS, discard only the first fragment that contains the UDP header from port 
> 53.)</t> 
> <t>The most recent resolver software is believed to implement R7.</t> 
> <t>Even if R7 is not implemented, it will only result in a name resolution 
> error, preventing attacks from leading to malicious sites.</t> 
> </section> 
> </section> 
> </middle> 
> <back> 
> <references> 
> <name>References</name> 
> <references anchor="sec-normative-references"> 
> <name>Normative References</name> 
> <xi:include 
> href="https://bib.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml/reference.RFC.6891.xml"/> 
> <xi:include 
> href="https://bib.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml/reference.RFC.7766.xml"/> 
> <xi:include 
> href="https://bib.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml/reference.RFC.8945.xml"/> 
> <xi:include 
> href="https://bib.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml/reference.RFC.2931.xml"/> 
> <xi:include 
> href="https://bib.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml/reference.RFC.2119.xml"/> 
> <xi:include 
> href="https://bib.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml/reference.RFC.8174.xml"/> 
> <xi:include 
> href="https://bib.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml/reference.RFC.8201.xml"/> 
> <xi:include 
> href="https://bib.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml/reference.RFC.1191.xml"/> 
> <xi:include 
> href="https://bib.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml/reference.RFC.8899.xml"/> 
> <xi:include 
> href="https://bib.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml/reference.RFC.9499.xml"/> 
> <xi:include 
> href="https://bib.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml/reference.RFC.8200.xml"/> 
> <xi:include 
> href="https://bib.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml/reference.RFC.1035.xml"/> 
> <xi:include 
> href="https://bib.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml/reference.RFC.7739.xml"/> 
> <xi:include 
> href="https://bib.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml/reference.RFC.8085.xml"/> 
> </references> 
> <references anchor="sec-informative-references"> 
> <name>Informative References</name>
> 
> 
> <reference anchor="Brandt2018" 
> target="https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3243734.3243790";> 
> <front> 
> <title>Domain Validation++ For MitM-Resilient PKI</title> 
> <author initials="M." surname="Brandt" fullname="Markus Brandt"> 
> <organization>Fraunhofer Institute for Secure Information Technology SIT, 
> Darmstadt, Germany</organization> 
> </author> 
> <author initials="T." surname="Dai" fullname="Tianxiang Dai"> 
> <organization>Fraunhofer Institute for Secure Information Technology SIT, 
> Darmstadt, Germany</organization> 
> </author> 
> <author initials="A." surname="Klein" fullname="Amit Klein"> 
> <organization>Fraunhofer Institute for Secure Information Technology SIT, 
> Darmstadt, Germany</organization> 
> </author> 
> <author initials="H." surname="Shulman" fullname="Haya Shulman"> 
> <organization>Fraunhofer Institute for Secure Information Technology SIT, 
> Darmstadt, Germany</organization> 
> </author> 
> <author initials="M." surname="Waidner" fullname="Michael Waidner"> 
> <organization>Fraunhofer Institute for Secure Information Technology SIT, 
> Darmstadt, Germany</organization> 
> </author> 
> <date month="October" year="2018"/> 
> </front> 
> <refcontent>Proceedings of the 2018 ACM SIGSAC Conference on Computer and 
> Communications Security, pp. 2060-2076</refcontent> <seriesInfo name="DOI" 
> value="10.1145/3243734.3243790"/> 
> </reference>
> 
> 
> <reference anchor="Herzberg2013" 
> target="https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/6682711";> 
> <front> 
> <title>Fragmentation Considered Poisonous, or: 
> One-domain-to-rule-them-all.org</title> 
> <author initials="A." surname="Herzberg" fullname="Amir Herzberg"> 
> <organization/> 
> </author> 
> <author initials="H." surname="Shulman" fullname="Haya Shulman"> 
> <organization/> 
> </author> 
> <date year="2013"/> 
> </front> 
> <refcontent>IEEE Conference on Communications and Network Security 
> (CNS)</refcontent> <seriesInfo name="DOI" value="10.1109/CNS.2013.6682711"/> 
> </reference>
> 
> 
> <reference anchor="Hlavacek2013" 
> target="https://ripe67.ripe.net/presentations/240-ipfragattack.pdf";> 
> <front> 
> <title>IP fragmentation attack on DNS</title> 
> <author initials="T." surname="Hlavacek" fullname="Tomas Hlavacek"> 
> <organization>cz.nic</organization> 
> </author> 
> <date year="2013"/> 
> </front> 
> <refcontent>RIPE 67 Meeting</refcontent> 
> </reference>
> 
> 
> <reference anchor="Fujiwara2018" 
> target="https://indico.dns-oarc.net/event/31/contributions/692/attachments/660/1115/fujiwara-5.pdf";>
>  
> <front> 
> <title>Measures against DNS cache poisoning attacks using IP 
> fragmentation</title> 
> <author initials="K." surname="Fujiwara" fullname="Kazunori Fujiwara"> 
> <organization>JPRS</organization> 
> </author> 
> <date year="2019"/> 
> </front> 
> <refcontent>OARC 30 Workshop</refcontent> 
> </reference>
> 
> 
> <reference anchor="DNSFlagDay2020" target="https://dnsflagday.net/2020/";> 
> <front> 
> <title>DNS flag day 2020</title> 
> <author> 
> <organization/> 
> </author> 
> <date></date> 
> </front> 
> </reference>
> 
> 
> <reference anchor="Huston2021" 
> target="https://indico.dns-oarc.net/event/37/contributions/806/attachments/782/1366/2021-02-04-dns-flag.pdf";>
>  
> <front> 
> <title>Measuring DNS Flag Day 2020</title> 
> <author initials="G." surname="Huston" fullname="Geoff Huston"> 
> <organization>APNIC Labs</organization> 
> </author> 
> <author initials="J." surname="Damas" fullname="Joao Damas"> 
> <organization>APNIC Labs</organization> 
> </author> 
> <date year="2021" month="February"/> 
> </front> 
> <refcontent>OARC 34 Workshop</refcontent> 
> </reference>
> 
> 
> <xi:include 
> href="https://bib.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml/reference.RFC.8900.xml"/> 
> <xi:include 
> href="https://bib.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml/reference.RFC.0791.xml"/> 
> <xi:include 
> href="https://bib.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml/reference.RFC.4035.xml"/> 
> <xi:include 
> href="https://bib.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml/reference.RFC.9471.xml"/> 
> <xi:include 
> href="https://bib.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml/reference.RFC.2308.xml"/> 
> <xi:include 
> href="https://bib.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml/reference.RFC.2782.xml"/> 
> <xi:include 
> href="https://bib.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml/reference.RFC.9460.xml"/> 
> <xi:include 
> href="https://bib.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml/reference.RFC.5155.xml"/> 
> <xi:include 
> href="https://bib.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml/reference.RFC.2671.xml"/>
> 
> 
> </references> 
> </references>
> 
> 
> <section anchor="details"> 
> <name>Details of Requestor's Maximum UDP Payload Size Discussions</name> 
> <t>There are many discussions about default path MTU size and a requestor's 
> maximum UDP payload size.</t> 
> <ul spacing="normal"> 
> <li> 
> <t>The minimum MTU for an IPv6 interface is 1280 octets 
> (see <xref section="5" sectionFormat="of" target="RFC8200"/>). So, it can be 
> used as the default path MTU value for IPv6. The corresponding minimum MTU 
> for an IPv4 interface is 68 (60 + 8) 
> <xref target="RFC0791"/>.</t> 
> </li> 
> <li>
> 
> 
> <t><xref target="RFC4035"/> states that "A security-aware name server 
> <bcp14>MUST</bcp14> support the EDNS0 (<xref target="RFC2671"/>) message size 
> extension, [and it] <bcp14>MUST</bcp14> support a message size of at least 
> 1220 octets". Then, the smallest number of the maximum DNS/UDP payload size 
> is 1220.</t> 
> </li> 
> <li> 
> <t>In order to avoid IP fragmentation, 
> <xref target="DNSFlagDay2020"/> proposes that UDP requestors set the 
> requestor's payload size to 1232 and UDP responders compose UDP responses so 
> they fit in 1232 octets. 
> The size 1232 is based on an MTU of 1280, which is required by the IPv6 
> specification <xref target="RFC8200"/>, minus 48 octets for the IPv6 and UDP 
> headers.</t> 
> </li> 
> <li> 
> <t>Most of the Internet, especially the inner core, has an MTU of at least 
> 1500 octets. 
> Maximum DNS/UDP payload size for IPv6 on an MTU 1500 Ethernet is 1452 (1500 
> minus 40 (IPv6 header size) minus 8 (UDP header size)). To allow for possible 
> IP options and distant tunnel overhead, the recommendation of default maximum 
> DNS/UDP payload size is 1400.</t> 
> </li> 
> <li> 
> <t><xref target="Huston2021"/> analyzes the result of <xref 
> target="DNSFlagDay2020"/> and reports that their measurements suggest that in 
> the interior of the Internet between recursive resolvers and authoritative 
> servers, the prevailing MTU is 1500 and there is no measurable signal of use 
> of smaller MTUs in this part of the Internet. They propose that 
> their measurements suggest setting the EDNS(0) requestor's UDP payload size 
> to 1472 octets for IPv4 and 1452 octets for IPv6.</t> 
> </li> 
> </ul> 
> <t>As a result of these discussions, 
> this document recommends a value of 1400, 
> with smaller values also allowed.</t> 
> </section> 
> <section anchor="minimal-responses"> 
> <name>Minimal Responses</name> 
> <t>Some implementations have a "minimal responses" configuration 
> setting/option that causes a DNS server to make response packets smaller, 
> containing only mandatory and required data.</t>
> 
> 
> <t>Under the minimal-responses configuration, a DNS server composes responses 
> containing only necessary Resource Records (RRs). For delegations, see <xref 
> target="RFC9471"/>. In case of a non-existent domain name or non-existent 
> type, the authority section will contain an SOA record, and the answer 
> section is empty 
> (see <xref section="2" sectionFormat="of" target="RFC2308"/>).</t> 
> <t>Some resource records (MX, SRV, SVCB, and HTTPS) require additional A, 
> AAAA, and Service Binding (SVCB) records in the Additional section 
> defined in <xref target="RFC1035"/>, <xref target="RFC2782"/>, and <xref 
> target="RFC9460"/>.</t> 
> <t>In addition, if the zone is DNSSEC signed and a query has the DNSSEC OK 
> bit, signatures are added in the answer section, 
> or the corresponding DS RRSet and signatures are added in the authority 
> section. Details are defined in <xref target="RFC4035"/> and <xref 
> target="RFC5155"/>.</t> 
> </section> 
> <section anchor="impl"> 
> <name>Known Implementations</name>
> 
> 
> <t>This section records the status of known implementations of the proposed 
> recommendations described in <xref target="recommendation"/>.</t> 
> <t>Please note that the listing of any individual implementation here does 
> not imply endorsement by the IETF. Furthermore, no effort has been made to 
> verify the information that was supplied by IETF contributors and presented 
> here.</t> 
> <section anchor="bind-9">
> 
> 
> <name>BIND 9</name> 
> <t>BIND 9 does not implement R1 and R2. <!--<xref 
> target="RecommendationsResponders"/>--></t> 
> <t>BIND 9 on Linux sets IP_MTU_DISCOVER to IP_PMTUDISC_OMIT with a fallback 
> to  IP_PMTUDISC_DONT.</t>
> 
> 
> <t>When BIND 9 is on systems with IP_DONTFRAG (such as FreeBSD), IP_DONTFRAG 
> is disabled.</t> 
> <t>Accepting Path MTU Discovery for UDP is considered harmful and dangerous. 
> BIND 9's settings avoid attacks to Path MTU Discovery.</t> 
> <t>For R3, BIND 9 will honor the requestor's size up to the configured limit 
> (<tt>max-udp-size</tt>). The UDP response packet is bound to be between 512 
> and 4096 bytes, with the default set to 1232. BIND 9 supports the requestor's 
> size up to the configured limit (<tt>max-udp-size</tt>).</t> 
> <t>In the case of R4 and the send fails with EMSGSIZE, BIND 9 sets the TC bit 
> and tries to send a minimal answer again.</t> 
> <t>For R5, <!--<xref target="RecommendationsRequestors"/>--> BIND 9 uses the 
> <tt>edns-buf-size</tt> option, with the default of 1232.</t> 
> <!-- remove this (by fujiwara): <t>BIND 9 does implement R6.--> <!--<xref 
> target="RecommendationsRequestors"/>--><!-- </t> --> 
> <t>For R7, after two UDP timeouts, BIND 9 will fall back to TCP.</t> 
> </section> 
> <section anchor="knot-dns-and-knot-resolver"> 
> <name>Knot DNS and Knot Resolver</name> 
> <t>Both Knot servers set IP_PMTUDISC_OMIT to avoid path MTU spoofing. The UDP 
> size limit is 1232 by default.</t> 
> <t>Fragments are ignored if they arrive over a Linux XDP interface.</t> 
> <t>TCP is attempted after repeated UDP timeouts.</t> 
> <t>Minimal responses are returned and are currently not configurable.</t> 
> <t>Smaller signatures are used, with ecdsap256sha256 as the default.</t> 
> </section> 
> <section 
> anchor="powerdns-authoritative-server-powerdns-recursor-powerdns-dnsdist"> 
> <name>PowerDNS Authoritative Server, PowerDNS Recursor, and PowerDNS 
> dnsdist</name>
> 
> 
> <ul spacing="normal"> 
> <li> 
> <t>Use IP_PMTUDISC_OMIT with a fallback to IP_PMTUDISC_DONT.</t> 
> </li> 
> <li> 
> <t>The default EDNS buffer size of 1232; no probing for smaller sizes.</t> 
> </li> 
> <li> 
> <t>There is no handling of EMSGSIZE.</t> 
> </li> 
> <li> 
> <t>Recursor: UDP timeouts do not cause a switch to TCP, but "spoofing near 
> misses" may.</t> 
> </li> 
> </ul> 
> </section> 
> <section anchor="powerdns-authoritative-server"> 
> <name>PowerDNS Authoritative Server</name> 
> <ul spacing="normal"> 
> <li> 
> <t>The default DNSSEC algorithm is 13.</t> 
> </li> 
> <li> 
> <t>Responses are minimal; this is not configurable.</t> 
> </li> 
> </ul> 
> </section> 
> <section anchor="unbound"> 
> <name>Unbound</name> 
> <t>Unbound sets IP_MTU_DISCOVER to IP_PMTUDISC_OMIT with fallback to 
> IP_PMTUDISC_DONT. It also disables IP_DONTFRAG on systems that have it, but 
> not on Apple systems. On systems that support it, Unbound sets 
> IPV6_USE_MIN_MTU, with a fallback to IPV6_MTU at 1280, with a fallback to 
> IPV6_USER_MTU. It also sets IPV6_MTU_DISCOVER to IPV6_PMTUDISC_OMIT, with a 
> fallback to IPV6_PMTUDISC_DONT.</t> 
> <t>Unbound requests a UDP size of 1232 from peers, by default. The 
> requestor's size is limited to a max of 1232.</t>
> 
> <t>After some timeouts, Unbound retries with a smaller size, if applicable, 
> or at size 1232 for IPv6 and 1472 for IPv4. This does not cause any negative 
> effects due to the "flag day" <xref target="DNSFlagDay2020"/> change to 
> 1232.</t> 
> 
> 
> <t>Unbound has the "minimal responses" configuration option; set default 
> on.</t> 
> </section> 
> <section anchor="acknowledgments" numbered="false"> 
> <name>Acknowledgments</name> 
> <t>The authors would like to specifically thank <contact fullname="Paul 
> Wouters"/>, <contact fullname="Mukund Sivaraman"/>, <contact fullname="Tony 
> Finch"/>, <contact fullname="Hugo Salgado"/>, <contact fullname="Peter van 
> Dijk"/>, <contact fullname="Brian Dickson"/>, 
> <contact fullname="Puneet Sood"/>, <contact fullname="Jim Reid"/>, 
> <contact fullname="Petr Spacek"/>, <contact fullname="Andrew McConachie"/>, 
> <contact fullname="Joe Abley"/>, <contact fullname="Daisuke Higashi"/>, 
> <contact fullname="Joe Touch"/>, <contact fullname="Wouter Wijngaards"/>, 
> <contact fullname="Vladimir Cunat"/>, 
> <contact fullname="Benno Overeinder"/>, and <contact fullname="Štěpán 
> Němec"/> for their extensive reviews and comments.</t> 
> </section> 
> </section> 
> </back>
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