On July 31, 2025 1:20:25 PM EDT, Frederik Schwan <[email protected]> wrote: > On Thu, Jul 31, 2025 at 05:53:47PM +0200, Tomaz Canabrava wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 at 15:33 Frederik Schwan <[1][email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jul 31, 2025 at 09:49:59AM +0200, Tomaz Canabrava wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 31, 2025 at 9:32 AM Robin Candau > > <[1][2][email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > On 7/31/25 9:14 AM, Tomaz Canabrava wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 at 23:37 Frederik Schwan <[2][3] > > [email protected] > > > > <mailto:[3][4][email protected]>> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2025 at 06:27:04PM -0300, Giancarlo > > Razzolini > > wrote: > > > > > Excerpts from Tomaz Canabrava's message of julho 30, 2025 > > 9:09 am: > > > > > > > > > > > > I confirm that I'm sponsoring Martin and that I'll be > > his > > > > mentor. This > > > > > > message is signed with my gpg key. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > > > Now that Tomaz has sent the signed email, the official > > discussion > > > > period started. But I'm glad some discussion is already > > happening > > > > and Martin already accepted some of suggestions. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Giancarlo Razzolini > > > > > > > > Hi Giancarlo, > > > > as per our TU bylaws [0] one must find two sponsoring _TUs_: > > > > > > > > > In order to become a TU, one must first find two > > sponsoring > > TUs > > > > following the guidelines outlined below, and arrange > > privately > > with > > > > them to announce their candidacy on the aur-general mailing > > list. > > > > > > > > But as of [1] you resigned as TU. Therefore it appears to me > > that > > > > you cannot sponsor Martin. > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Frederik > > > > > > > > [0] > > [4][5]https://github.com/archlinux/tu-bylaws/blob/master/ > > tu- > > > > bylaws.adoc > > <[5][6]https://github.com/archlinux/tu-bylaws/blob/ > > master/ > > > tu- > > > > bylaws.adoc> > > > > [1] [6][7]https://lists.archlinux.org/archives/list/aur- > > > > [7][8][email protected]/message/ > > > > FETRJKGSYJANXVKMNED6QROO56LLUMKM/ <[8][9]https:// > > lists.archlinux.org/ > > > > > > archives/list/[9][10][email protected]/message/ > > > > FETRJKGSYJANXVKMNED6QROO56LLUMKM/> > > > > > > > > > > > > hello, > > > > > > > > i disagree with the premisses states here, the document says > > that > > for > > > > addition of a TU one must find two TUs to sponsor, > > > > > > > > But we are not adding a TU, but a Package Maintainer. > > > > Gian is a package maintainer. > > > > so am I. > > > > > > > > best, > > > > tomaz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > The "TU / Trusted User" role is the old name for the current "PM / > > > Package Maintainer" one. See the related RFC for the rename of the > > role > > > [1]. > > > The bylaws has been updated accordingly [2][3]. > > > > > > Technically speaking, if Giancarlo resigned as a TU, he is defacto > > not a > > > package maintainer (as TU is simply the previous name of the > > current > > PM > > > role). > > > > > > > > > I do agree that the rename was a big thing but I feel that this is not > > correct > > > - the TU role and the Package Maintainer roles are slightly different. > > > > So you say, that if I `mv filea fileb`, the checksum of the file > > contents > > differ? > > > > > > no mate, i think a cat filea | cut > fileb, > > the checksums of the file contents differ. > > There was no `cut`. We just renamed TUs to PMs.
To clear this up, there was an RFC that was accepted to further split the roles into Package Maintainer and AUR Moderators, but that has not been implemented yet: <https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/rfcs/-/merge_requests/19> For now PM's are still meant to fulfill both roles. > At any rate I don't think this is a problem. Gian can apply for the PM role, > given he finds two sponsors. > But as a longtime Developer he surely will find PMs to promote him to PM > again. > -- Best, Daniel <https://danielcapella.com>
