On Thu, Jul 31, 2025 at 9:32 AM Robin Candau <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 7/31/25 9:14 AM, Tomaz Canabrava wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 at 23:37 Frederik Schwan <[email protected]
> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> >
> >     On Wed, Jul 30, 2025 at 06:27:04PM -0300, Giancarlo Razzolini wrote:
> >      > Excerpts from Tomaz Canabrava's message of julho 30, 2025 9:09 am:
> >      > >
> >      > > I confirm that I'm sponsoring Martin and that I'll be his
> >     mentor. This
> >      > > message is signed with my gpg key.
> >      > >
> >      >
> >      > Hi All,
> >      >
> >      > Now that Tomaz has sent the signed email, the official discussion
> >     period started. But I'm glad some discussion is already happening
> >     and Martin already accepted some of suggestions.
> >      >
> >      > Regards,
> >      > Giancarlo Razzolini
> >
> >     Hi Giancarlo,
> >     as per our TU bylaws [0] one must find two sponsoring _TUs_:
> >
> >      > In order to become a TU, one must first find two sponsoring TUs
> >     following the guidelines outlined below, and arrange privately with
> >     them to announce their candidacy on the aur-general mailing list.
> >
> >     But as of [1] you resigned as TU. Therefore it appears to me that
> >     you cannot sponsor Martin.
> >
> >     Best regards,
> >     Frederik
> >
> >     [0] https://github.com/archlinux/tu-bylaws/blob/master/tu-
> >     bylaws.adoc <https://github.com/archlinux/tu-bylaws/blob/master/tu-
> >     bylaws.adoc>
> >     [1] https://lists.archlinux.org/archives/list/aur-
> >     [email protected]/message/
> >     FETRJKGSYJANXVKMNED6QROO56LLUMKM/ <https://lists.archlinux.org/
> >     archives/list/[email protected]/message/
> >     FETRJKGSYJANXVKMNED6QROO56LLUMKM/>
> >
> >
> > hello,
> >
> > i disagree with the premisses states here, the document says that for
> > addition of a TU one must find two TUs to sponsor,
> >
> > But we are not adding a TU, but a Package Maintainer.
> > Gian is a package maintainer.
> > so am I.
> >
> > best,
> > tomaz
> >
> >
> >
>
> Hi,
>
> The "TU / Trusted User" role is the old name for the current "PM /
> Package Maintainer" one. See the related RFC for the rename of the role
> [1].
> The bylaws has been updated accordingly [2][3].
>
> Technically speaking, if Giancarlo resigned as a TU, he is defacto not a
> package maintainer (as TU is simply the previous name of the current PM
> role).
>

I do agree that the rename was a big thing but I feel that this is not
correct - the TU role and the Package Maintainer roles are slightly
different.
if you look at the Package Maintainers list, Gian is still there, and Gian
still packages things that goes directly to extra and core, he wouldn't be
able to do that if he was not a Package Maintainer.

other than that, Gian also sponsored people (me included) after he resigned
as TU, and that was not a problem.


>
> Although, I personally have no strong feeling about this. I just wanted
> to clarify the eventual TU / PM roles confusion.
>
> [1] https://rfc.archlinux.page/0007-rename-trusted-user-role/
> [2]
>
> https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/package-maintainer-bylaws/-/merge_requests/6
> [3] https://package-maintainer-bylaws.aur.archlinux.org/
>
> --
> Regards,
> Robin Candau / Antiz
>

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