Since we are aiming for this to be a comprehensive source of information, it
would help. Tomorrow if someone wants to know which actor has acted most in
ARR movies, etc, it will be just a query away.

Warm Regards
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Vinayak

http://www.flickr.com/photos/rightplacerighttime/


On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 4:47 AM, Roshan <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> do we need the actors information and all ?  not sure.. they don't mean
> anything to music.
>
> just my opinion. but if you all think it is useful, let's keep it.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 10:18 PM, Vinayakam Murugan <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>  [Attachment(s) <#12aa2000d826af2d_12aa0fcd00fc3b02_TopText> from
>> Vinayakam Murugan included below]
>>
>> I have switched the Movie name and Song Name column in the sheet sent by
>> ARRvind.
>>
>>
>> Warm Regards
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> Vinayak
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/rightplacerighttime/
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Vinayakam Murugan <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry, I thought I had added Movie Name. ARRvind has added both of your
>>> requests.
>>>
>>> Thanks, ARRvind.
>>>
>>> Warm Regards
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>> Vinayak
>>>
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/rightplacerighttime/
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 10:07 PM, Vinayakam Murugan <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey Raj
>>>>
>>>> Movie Name is already there. I will add Raga to the same.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Warm Regards
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>> Vinayak
>>>>
>>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/rightplacerighttime/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 6:50 AM, raj <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Vinayagam Murugan,
>>>>>
>>>>> The format is ok. Please add the following columns on the songs sheet.
>>>>>
>>>>> > movie_name
>>>>> > Ragaa
>>>>>
>>>>> Please upload the same to google docs as it can be edited online by the
>>>>> group members.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --- In [email protected] <arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com>,
>>>>> Roshan <c.pix...@...> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > sorry.. scratch that. opened it.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I think it is a good format. let's start using it and probably add
>>>>> some more
>>>>> > columns.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 1:44 AM, Roshan <c.pix...@...> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > Vinayak,
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > I am not able to open it on iWork Numbers. it usually opens all the
>>>>> > > spreadsheet formats including .xls. but i can't open this one.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > what do you think is the problem ? I don't have windows. I can try
>>>>> it on
>>>>> > > Ubuntu later.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Vinayakam Murugan <
>>>>> > > mvinayakam.li...@...> wrote:
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> [Attachment(s) <#12a9b6fdb7b61031_12a94d62ec0198a1_TopText> from
>>>>>
>>>>> > >> Vinayakam Murugan included below]
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> Hello Friends
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> I decided to change the Subject line to make it more relevant.
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> Here is a scratch Db Structure. Like I have seperated Films /
>>>>> Albums from
>>>>> > >> Songs, we should seperate Singers & Awards also from Songs.
>>>>> However that
>>>>> > >> could be better achieved through a Db than excel. This sheet is
>>>>> for
>>>>> > >> illustration purposes only. Further Db normalization is required.
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> Warm Regards
>>>>> > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>> > >> Vinayak
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/rightplacerighttime/
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 8:02 AM, raj <arr_naga...@...> wrote:
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>> Ok..I make a living by Databases and Databases only :)
>>>>> > >>> I am a DBA. So yes..I can help. As a first step, it would be
>>>>> great
>>>>> > >>> if someone can comeup with a excel containing the following
>>>>> fields.
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>> 1) Film_name
>>>>> > >>> 2) Song_name
>>>>> > >>> 3) Singers_name ( comma seperated )
>>>>> > >>> 4) date of release
>>>>> > >>> 5) Genre of the song ( Western,fusion,carnatic classical,quawalli
>>>>> )
>>>>> > >>> 6) Director of the film
>>>>> > >>> 7) Lead actor
>>>>> > >>> 8) Actress
>>>>> > >>> 9) Ragaa of the song ( if possible )
>>>>> > >>> 10) Language
>>>>> > >>> 11) is_dubbed_film ( yes/no)
>>>>> > >>> 12) Producer of the film
>>>>> > >>> 13) Lyricst.
>>>>> > >>> 14) Miscellaneous.
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>> You can add few more fields if you feel like. I am keeping it
>>>>> simple
>>>>> > >>> as of now and we can change the DB design( (De)Normalize )
>>>>> depending upon
>>>>> > >>> our needs. As a first step, someone can create a document on
>>>>> google docs and
>>>>> > >>> start updating the same. As its on Google docs, most of us can
>>>>> contribute
>>>>> > >>> and we can get these details soon. Once the data
>>>>> > >>> collection is complete, DB design can be adjusted and we can
>>>>> start
>>>>> > >>> working on the application.
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>> --- In 
>>>>> > >>> [email protected]<arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com><arrahmanfans%
>>>>> 40yahoogroups.com>,
>>>>>
>>>>> > >>> Indmov Buff <indmovbuff@> wrote:
>>>>> > >>> >
>>>>> > >>> > Fantastic! The majority vote is for a database it seems.
>>>>> > >>> >
>>>>> > >>> > I don't have any skills in database but open to learning. Also,
>>>>> I'd be
>>>>> > >>> happy to
>>>>> > >>> > allocate time to sit through the group mails for the
>>>>> information that
>>>>> > >>> will make
>>>>> > >>> > it a good database. I am mainly interested in the research
>>>>> aspects of
>>>>> > >>> the work
>>>>> > >>> > involved in finishing this database that we are after. So happy
>>>>> to
>>>>> > >>> contribute in
>>>>> > >>> > the form getting the data together , more on the creative side
>>>>> rather
>>>>> > >>> than the
>>>>> > >>> > technical side. So I guess, we should start off with a list of
>>>>> people
>>>>> > >>> who are
>>>>> > >>> > willing to help. And this has got to be a bit of a commitment
>>>>> given
>>>>> > >>> that we will
>>>>> > >>> > need to co-ordinate with members around the world with
>>>>> different work
>>>>> > >>> and social
>>>>> > >>> > commitments. I am up for it!
>>>>> > >>> >
>>>>> > >>> >
>>>>> > >>> >
>>>>> > >>> > ________________________________
>>>>> > >>> > From: Gopal Srinivasan <catchgops@>
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>> > To: 
>>>>> > >>> > [email protected]<arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com><arrahmanfans%
>>>>> 40yahoogroups.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> > >>> > Sent: Wed, 18 August, 2010 16:51:43
>>>>> > >>> > Subject: Re: [arr] Database for group of contents from useful
>>>>> e-mails
>>>>> > >>> >
>>>>> > >>> >
>>>>> > >>> > Glad to see this outpouring of enthusiasm. Hopefully, it will
>>>>> sustain.
>>>>> > >>> I, among
>>>>> > >>> > others, have tried various forms of this previously that did
>>>>> not
>>>>> > >>> culminate in
>>>>> > >>> > anything (beyond my discography, which too hasn't been updated
>>>>> in a
>>>>> > >>> year) as
>>>>> > >>> > time turned out to be a major constraint. Some of the modes we
>>>>> have
>>>>> > >>> considered
>>>>> > >>> > includes static web lists, wikis and databases. In my opinion,
>>>>> a
>>>>> > >>> database at the
>>>>> > >>> > backend is probably the best with front end forms for querying.
>>>>> > >>> Depending on how
>>>>> > >>> > simple or complex it turns out, something like Zoho Creator
>>>>> might work
>>>>> > >>> too.
>>>>> > >>> > What's needed is the involvement of people who are well versed
>>>>> with
>>>>> > >>> database
>>>>> > >>> > design AND those that can source information. If we can do a
>>>>> good
>>>>> > >>> enough job of
>>>>> > >>> > this there is potential to make it official. Next steps perhaps
>>>>> include
>>>>> > >>> forming
>>>>> > >>> > a core team, identifying the types of information we want
>>>>> stored,
>>>>> > >>> design the
>>>>> > >>> > schema and then create and populate.
>>>>> > >>> >
>>>>> > >>> >
>>>>> > >>> > On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 06:31, Roshan <c.pixels@> wrote:
>>>>> > >>> >
>>>>> > >>> >
>>>>> > >>> > >
>>>>> > >>> > >I can work on the technical side of it. (Development and
>>>>> design). But
>>>>> > >>> will
>>>>> > >>> > >really appreciate if someone can assist as well. I will need
>>>>> some help
>>>>> > >>> from you
>>>>> > >>> > >guys about collecting the info from the group. it seems like a
>>>>> lot.
>>>>> > >>> but if we
>>>>> > >>> > >collectively do it, we can finish it in within a month or two
>>>>> > >>> (including the
>>>>> > >>> > >development).
>>>>> > >>> > >
>>>>> > >>> > >I will also need some input in choosing the domain
>>>>> > >>> > >
>>>>> > >>> > >I thought of some
>>>>> > >>> > >
>>>>> > >>> > >ARDB.in
>>>>> > >>> > >
>>>>> > >>> > >arrinfo.org
>>>>> > >>> > >
>>>>> > >>> > >i tried some domains that has ar rahman in the name, but they
>>>>> all seem
>>>>> > >>> to have
>>>>> > >>> > >been taken.
>>>>> > >>> > >
>>>>> > >>> > >As for hosting and domain, I don't mind paying for it. I have
>>>>> a
>>>>> > >>> dedicated server
>>>>> > >>> > >where I host my clients.
>>>>> > >>> > >
>>>>> > >>> > >so, to sum it up
>>>>> > >>> > >
>>>>> > >>> > >1. website as a database of information on ar rahman and his
>>>>> music.
>>>>> > >>> > >
>>>>> > >>> > >2. categorized, search-able contents like Reviews,
>>>>> Information,
>>>>> > >>> Singers,
>>>>> > >>> > >Instrumentalists, Instruments Used, Places performed, Debuts,
>>>>> quotes,
>>>>> > >>> interviews
>>>>> > >>> > >etc.
>>>>> > >>> > >
>>>>> > >>> > >3. Quality contents from the group. like awesome reviews of AJ
>>>>> and
>>>>> > >>> Gayathri and
>>>>> > >>> > >the rest of those people who write good contents. of course,
>>>>> with
>>>>> > >>> credits and
>>>>> > >>> > >links to their blogs / websites etc, if they have any.
>>>>> > >>> > >
>>>>> > >>> > >please contribute your suggestions.
>>>>> > >>> > >
>>>>> > >>> > >
>>>>> > >>> > >
>>>>> > >>> > >
>>>>> > >>> > >
>>>>> > >>> > >
>>>>> > >>> > >On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 4:14 AM, Indmov Buff <indmovbuff@>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > >>> > >
>>>>> > >>> > >
>>>>> > >>> > >>Me too! Like where we can sort by singer name or raaga name
>>>>> etc. Just
>>>>> > >>> info. IT
>>>>> > >>> > >>savvy people out there- what's the best way to go about this?
>>>>> > >>> > >>
>>>>> > >>> > >>
>>>>> > >>> > >>
>>>>> > >>> > >>
>>>>> > >>> > >>
>>>>> > >>> > >>
>>>>> > >>> > >>
>>>>> > >>> > ________________________________
>>>>> > >>> > From: Roshan <c.pixels@>
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>> > >>To: 
>>>>> > >>> > >>[email protected]<arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com><arrahmanfans%
>>>>> 40yahoogroups.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> > >>> > >>Sent: Tue, 17 August, 2010 21:45:59
>>>>> > >>> > >>Subject: Re: [arr] Database for group of contents from useful
>>>>> e-mails
>>>>> > >>> > >>
>>>>> > >>> > >>
>>>>> > >>> > >>That gives me another idea. how about a website with all the
>>>>> info
>>>>> > >>> about AR
>>>>> > >>> > >>Rahman, his singers, his songs, Genres, and all the other
>>>>> info we
>>>>> > >>> find from our
>>>>> > >>> > >>group ? we can make it as an extension of this group. there
>>>>> won't be
>>>>> > >>> any forum
>>>>> > >>> > >>or anything.. just info.
>>>>> > >>> > >>
>>>>> > >>> > >>I would love to do it.
>>>>> > >>> > >>
>>>>> > >>> > >>
>>>>> > >>> > >>On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 6:53 PM, ARRvind <arr_arvind@>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > >>> > >>
>>>>> > >>> > >>
>>>>> > >>> > >>>Nice initiative.! Would mean a lot to this group.! Lets get
>>>>> Gopal
>>>>> > >>> bro's comment
>>>>> > >>> > >>>on this!
>>>>> > >>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>> > >>>--- On Tue, 8/17/10, Indmov Buff <indmovbuff@> wrote:
>>>>> > >>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>> > >>>>From: Indmov Buff <indmovbuff@>
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>> > >>>>Subject: [arr] Database for group of contents from useful
>>>>> e-mails
>>>>> > >>> > >>>>To: "A R" 
>>>>> > >>> > >>>><[email protected]<arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com>
>>>>> <arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> > >>> >
>>>>> > >>> > >>>>Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010, 12:54 PM
>>>>> > >>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>> > >>>>Hi Gopal and the rest,
>>>>> > >>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>> > >>>>I have read many e-mails containing useful data in this
>>>>> group
>>>>> > >>> before. Just like
>>>>> > >>> > >>>>Arvind's unique list of intro songs for singers there have
>>>>> been
>>>>> > >>> other lists such
>>>>> > >>> > >>>>as Mother songs, child singers lists, raaga based lists and
>>>>> several
>>>>> > >>> other
>>>>> > >>> > >>>>extremely interesting lists. I strongly feel that we should
>>>>> have
>>>>> > >>> all of this
>>>>> > >>> > >>>>documented as part of the group? Any suggestions on how
>>>>> this can be
>>>>> > >>> done?
>>>>> > >>> > >>>>Database? I am happy to put in time to dig out useful data
>>>>> from old
>>>>> > >>> e-mails.
>>>>> > >>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>> > >>
>>>>> > >>> > >>
>>>>> > >>> > >>
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