do we need the actors information and all ?  not sure.. they don't mean
anything to music.

just my opinion. but if you all think it is useful, let's keep it.



On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 10:18 PM, Vinayakam Murugan <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
>  [Attachment(s) <#12aa0fcd00fc3b02_TopText> from Vinayakam Murugan
> included below]
>
> I have switched the Movie name and Song Name column in the sheet sent by
> ARRvind.
>
>
> Warm Regards
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Vinayak
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/rightplacerighttime/
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Vinayakam Murugan <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Sorry, I thought I had added Movie Name. ARRvind has added both of your
>> requests.
>>
>> Thanks, ARRvind.
>>
>> Warm Regards
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> Vinayak
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/rightplacerighttime/
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 10:07 PM, Vinayakam Murugan <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Raj
>>>
>>> Movie Name is already there. I will add Raga to the same.
>>>
>>>
>>> Warm Regards
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>> Vinayak
>>>
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/rightplacerighttime/
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 6:50 AM, raj <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Vinayagam Murugan,
>>>>
>>>> The format is ok. Please add the following columns on the songs sheet.
>>>>
>>>> > movie_name
>>>> > Ragaa
>>>>
>>>> Please upload the same to google docs as it can be edited online by the
>>>> group members.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- In [email protected] <arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com>,
>>>> Roshan <c.pix...@...> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > sorry.. scratch that. opened it.
>>>> >
>>>> > I think it is a good format. let's start using it and probably add
>>>> some more
>>>> > columns.
>>>> >
>>>> > On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 1:44 AM, Roshan <c.pix...@...> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > > Vinayak,
>>>> > >
>>>> > > I am not able to open it on iWork Numbers. it usually opens all the
>>>> > > spreadsheet formats including .xls. but i can't open this one.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > what do you think is the problem ? I don't have windows. I can try
>>>> it on
>>>> > > Ubuntu later.
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Vinayakam Murugan <
>>>> > > mvinayakam.li...@...> wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> [Attachment(s) <#12a9b6fdb7b61031_12a94d62ec0198a1_TopText> from
>>>>
>>>> > >> Vinayakam Murugan included below]
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Hello Friends
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> I decided to change the Subject line to make it more relevant.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Here is a scratch Db Structure. Like I have seperated Films /
>>>> Albums from
>>>> > >> Songs, we should seperate Singers & Awards also from Songs. However
>>>> that
>>>> > >> could be better achieved through a Db than excel. This sheet is for
>>>> > >> illustration purposes only. Further Db normalization is required.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Warm Regards
>>>> > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>> > >> Vinayak
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/rightplacerighttime/
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 8:02 AM, raj <arr_naga...@...> wrote:
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> Ok..I make a living by Databases and Databases only :)
>>>> > >>> I am a DBA. So yes..I can help. As a first step, it would be great
>>>> > >>> if someone can comeup with a excel containing the following
>>>> fields.
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> 1) Film_name
>>>> > >>> 2) Song_name
>>>> > >>> 3) Singers_name ( comma seperated )
>>>> > >>> 4) date of release
>>>> > >>> 5) Genre of the song ( Western,fusion,carnatic classical,quawalli
>>>> )
>>>> > >>> 6) Director of the film
>>>> > >>> 7) Lead actor
>>>> > >>> 8) Actress
>>>> > >>> 9) Ragaa of the song ( if possible )
>>>> > >>> 10) Language
>>>> > >>> 11) is_dubbed_film ( yes/no)
>>>> > >>> 12) Producer of the film
>>>> > >>> 13) Lyricst.
>>>> > >>> 14) Miscellaneous.
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> You can add few more fields if you feel like. I am keeping it
>>>> simple
>>>> > >>> as of now and we can change the DB design( (De)Normalize )
>>>> depending upon
>>>> > >>> our needs. As a first step, someone can create a document on
>>>> google docs and
>>>> > >>> start updating the same. As its on Google docs, most of us can
>>>> contribute
>>>> > >>> and we can get these details soon. Once the data
>>>> > >>> collection is complete, DB design can be adjusted and we can start
>>>> > >>> working on the application.
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> --- In 
>>>> > >>> [email protected]<arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com><arrahmanfans%
>>>> 40yahoogroups.com>,
>>>>
>>>> > >>> Indmov Buff <indmovbuff@> wrote:
>>>> > >>> >
>>>> > >>> > Fantastic! The majority vote is for a database it seems.
>>>> > >>> >
>>>> > >>> > I don't have any skills in database but open to learning. Also,
>>>> I'd be
>>>> > >>> happy to
>>>> > >>> > allocate time to sit through the group mails for the information
>>>> that
>>>> > >>> will make
>>>> > >>> > it a good database. I am mainly interested in the research
>>>> aspects of
>>>> > >>> the work
>>>> > >>> > involved in finishing this database that we are after. So happy
>>>> to
>>>> > >>> contribute in
>>>> > >>> > the form getting the data together , more on the creative side
>>>> rather
>>>> > >>> than the
>>>> > >>> > technical side. So I guess, we should start off with a list of
>>>> people
>>>> > >>> who are
>>>> > >>> > willing to help. And this has got to be a bit of a commitment
>>>> given
>>>> > >>> that we will
>>>> > >>> > need to co-ordinate with members around the world with different
>>>> work
>>>> > >>> and social
>>>> > >>> > commitments. I am up for it!
>>>> > >>> >
>>>> > >>> >
>>>> > >>> >
>>>> > >>> > ________________________________
>>>> > >>> > From: Gopal Srinivasan <catchgops@>
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> > To: 
>>>> > >>> > [email protected]<arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com><arrahmanfans%
>>>> 40yahoogroups.com>
>>>>
>>>> > >>> > Sent: Wed, 18 August, 2010 16:51:43
>>>> > >>> > Subject: Re: [arr] Database for group of contents from useful
>>>> e-mails
>>>> > >>> >
>>>> > >>> >
>>>> > >>> > Glad to see this outpouring of enthusiasm. Hopefully, it will
>>>> sustain.
>>>> > >>> I, among
>>>> > >>> > others, have tried various forms of this previously that did not
>>>> > >>> culminate in
>>>> > >>> > anything (beyond my discography, which too hasn't been updated
>>>> in a
>>>> > >>> year) as
>>>> > >>> > time turned out to be a major constraint. Some of the modes we
>>>> have
>>>> > >>> considered
>>>> > >>> > includes static web lists, wikis and databases. In my opinion, a
>>>> > >>> database at the
>>>> > >>> > backend is probably the best with front end forms for querying.
>>>> > >>> Depending on how
>>>> > >>> > simple or complex it turns out, something like Zoho Creator
>>>> might work
>>>> > >>> too.
>>>> > >>> > What's needed is the involvement of people who are well versed
>>>> with
>>>> > >>> database
>>>> > >>> > design AND those that can source information. If we can do a
>>>> good
>>>> > >>> enough job of
>>>> > >>> > this there is potential to make it official. Next steps perhaps
>>>> include
>>>> > >>> forming
>>>> > >>> > a core team, identifying the types of information we want
>>>> stored,
>>>> > >>> design the
>>>> > >>> > schema and then create and populate.
>>>> > >>> >
>>>> > >>> >
>>>> > >>> > On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 06:31, Roshan <c.pixels@> wrote:
>>>> > >>> >
>>>> > >>> >
>>>> > >>> > >
>>>> > >>> > >I can work on the technical side of it. (Development and
>>>> design). But
>>>> > >>> will
>>>> > >>> > >really appreciate if someone can assist as well. I will need
>>>> some help
>>>> > >>> from you
>>>> > >>> > >guys about collecting the info from the group. it seems like a
>>>> lot.
>>>> > >>> but if we
>>>> > >>> > >collectively do it, we can finish it in within a month or two
>>>> > >>> (including the
>>>> > >>> > >development).
>>>> > >>> > >
>>>> > >>> > >I will also need some input in choosing the domain
>>>> > >>> > >
>>>> > >>> > >I thought of some
>>>> > >>> > >
>>>> > >>> > >ARDB.in
>>>> > >>> > >
>>>> > >>> > >arrinfo.org
>>>> > >>> > >
>>>> > >>> > >i tried some domains that has ar rahman in the name, but they
>>>> all seem
>>>> > >>> to have
>>>> > >>> > >been taken.
>>>> > >>> > >
>>>> > >>> > >As for hosting and domain, I don't mind paying for it. I have a
>>>> > >>> dedicated server
>>>> > >>> > >where I host my clients.
>>>> > >>> > >
>>>> > >>> > >so, to sum it up
>>>> > >>> > >
>>>> > >>> > >1. website as a database of information on ar rahman and his
>>>> music.
>>>> > >>> > >
>>>> > >>> > >2. categorized, search-able contents like Reviews, Information,
>>>> > >>> Singers,
>>>> > >>> > >Instrumentalists, Instruments Used, Places performed, Debuts,
>>>> quotes,
>>>> > >>> interviews
>>>> > >>> > >etc.
>>>> > >>> > >
>>>> > >>> > >3. Quality contents from the group. like awesome reviews of AJ
>>>> and
>>>> > >>> Gayathri and
>>>> > >>> > >the rest of those people who write good contents. of course,
>>>> with
>>>> > >>> credits and
>>>> > >>> > >links to their blogs / websites etc, if they have any.
>>>> > >>> > >
>>>> > >>> > >please contribute your suggestions.
>>>> > >>> > >
>>>> > >>> > >
>>>> > >>> > >
>>>> > >>> > >
>>>> > >>> > >
>>>> > >>> > >
>>>> > >>> > >On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 4:14 AM, Indmov Buff <indmovbuff@>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > >>> > >
>>>> > >>> > >
>>>> > >>> > >>Me too! Like where we can sort by singer name or raaga name
>>>> etc. Just
>>>> > >>> info. IT
>>>> > >>> > >>savvy people out there- what's the best way to go about this?
>>>> > >>> > >>
>>>> > >>> > >>
>>>> > >>> > >>
>>>> > >>> > >>
>>>> > >>> > >>
>>>> > >>> > >>
>>>> > >>> > >>
>>>> > >>> > ________________________________
>>>> > >>> > From: Roshan <c.pixels@>
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> > >>To: 
>>>> > >>> > >>[email protected]<arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com><arrahmanfans%
>>>> 40yahoogroups.com>
>>>>
>>>> > >>> > >>Sent: Tue, 17 August, 2010 21:45:59
>>>> > >>> > >>Subject: Re: [arr] Database for group of contents from useful
>>>> e-mails
>>>> > >>> > >>
>>>> > >>> > >>
>>>> > >>> > >>That gives me another idea. how about a website with all the
>>>> info
>>>> > >>> about AR
>>>> > >>> > >>Rahman, his singers, his songs, Genres, and all the other info
>>>> we
>>>> > >>> find from our
>>>> > >>> > >>group ? we can make it as an extension of this group. there
>>>> won't be
>>>> > >>> any forum
>>>> > >>> > >>or anything.. just info.
>>>> > >>> > >>
>>>> > >>> > >>I would love to do it.
>>>> > >>> > >>
>>>> > >>> > >>
>>>> > >>> > >>On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 6:53 PM, ARRvind <arr_arvind@> wrote:
>>>> > >>> > >>
>>>> > >>> > >>
>>>> > >>> > >>>Nice initiative.! Would mean a lot to this group.! Lets get
>>>> Gopal
>>>> > >>> bro's comment
>>>> > >>> > >>>on this!
>>>> > >>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> > >>>--- On Tue, 8/17/10, Indmov Buff <indmovbuff@> wrote:
>>>> > >>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> > >>>>From: Indmov Buff <indmovbuff@>
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> > >>>>Subject: [arr] Database for group of contents from useful
>>>> e-mails
>>>> > >>> > >>>>To: "A R" 
>>>> > >>> > >>>><[email protected]<arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com>
>>>> <arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com>
>>>>
>>>> > >>> >
>>>> > >>> > >>>>Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010, 12:54 PM
>>>> > >>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>> > >>>>Hi Gopal and the rest,
>>>> > >>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>> > >>>>I have read many e-mails containing useful data in this
>>>> group
>>>> > >>> before. Just like
>>>> > >>> > >>>>Arvind's unique list of intro songs for singers there have
>>>> been
>>>> > >>> other lists such
>>>> > >>> > >>>>as Mother songs, child singers lists, raaga based lists and
>>>> several
>>>> > >>> other
>>>> > >>> > >>>>extremely interesting lists. I strongly feel that we should
>>>> have
>>>> > >>> all of this
>>>> > >>> > >>>>documented as part of the group? Any suggestions on how this
>>>> can be
>>>> > >>> done?
>>>> > >>> > >>>>Database? I am happy to put in time to dig out useful data
>>>> from old
>>>> > >>> e-mails.
>>>> > >>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> > >>
>>>> > >>> > >>
>>>> > >>> > >>
>>>> > >>> > >>--
>>>> > >>> > >>-----------------------------------
>>>> > >>> > >>http://roshanravi.com
>>>> > >>> > >>http://ramblingsoul.com
>>>> > >>> > >>http://cssheaven.org
>>>> > >>> > >>
>>>> > >>> > >>
>>>> > >>> > >>
>>>> > >>> > >
>>>> > >>> > >
>>>> > >>> > >--
>>>> > >>> > >-----------------------------------
>>>> > >>> > >http://roshanravi.com
>>>> > >>> > >http://ramblingsoul.com
>>>> > >>> > >http://cssheaven.org
>>>> > >>> > >
>>>> > >>> > >
>>>> > >>> > >
>>>> > >>> > >
>>>> > >>> >
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > --
>>>>
>>>> > > -----------------------------------
>>>> > > http://roshanravi.com
>>>> > > http://ramblingsoul.com
>>>> > > http://cssheaven.org
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > -----------------------------------
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>>>> > http://ramblingsoul.com
>>>> > http://cssheaven.org
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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