in response to the comment: "do we really want to listen to english songs from an english movie which will not be like tamil or hindi songs that are so so soulful..."
are u kidding me??...so u are basically saying that Indian music has a monopoly on soulfulness?..that's just ridiculous!....face the facts...Indian music holds little appeal for non-Indians EXCEPT AR Rahman...he is the ONLY indian MD who produces songs the whole WORLD does/would (if they listened to more) enjoy! ARR is a MD of INTERNATIONAL quality...don't try and peg him into a local role!! --- In [email protected], chandrasekaran guruprasad <gurudutta1...@...> wrote: > > dear friends >  > Let us not compare arr 90's with 2000+, reasons are as below, >  > 1990- 1995 - ARR is CITY STAR (popular in chennai) for chennaities kadalan, > bombay, tiruda.. > 1995 - 2000 - ARR is TAMIL STAR (popular in tamilnadu) for giving movies like > karuthamma,tajmahal, padayappa, sangamam.. > 2000 - 2005 - ARR is INDIAN STAR (popular in india) for giving movies like > RDB, ALAIPAYUTHE, LAGAAN, MANGAL PANDEY,... > 2005 - 2010 - ARR is GLOBAL STAR (popular in hollywood) for giving movies > like SDM, ENTHIRAN, VTV, RAVAN.. > 2010-2015 ARR will be the UNIVERSAL STAR  (popular in world),,,for giving > movies like xxx, xxxxxxxx,....(names censored) >  > hope u all agree with ARR/s growth, let us proud of him being indian ... >  > regards > guru >  > > --- On Mon, 8/16/10, Indmov Buff <indmovb...@...> wrote: > > > From: Indmov Buff <indmovb...@...> > Subject: Re: [arr] THE RAHMAN TODAY---doesnt look good-- > To: [email protected] > Date: Monday, August 16, 2010, 5:52 PM > > >  > > > > > > > > point taken. my reply was mostly driven by the following  statement > > > "nowday wat am i hearing always is rahman busy wit concerts,rahman busy with > his international commitments...it really makes me sick...wat do i as a fan > of his get till now...wat international commitments have made him > today...nothing...." >  > I didn't think it was constructive criticism at all. > I agree that a brutal fan base could contribute to the artists's growth but >  the above and few of the other mails that have been circulating these days > contains comments like "his music has been crap since 2000. anyone who likes > his music in recent times (except for Delhi 6)  is lying to himself" etc. > that's unwarranted and unnecessary. Not liking an album is fine (I don't > like Endhiran- not my cup of tea) but trying to impose that view on everyone > else in this group and also implying that people who think otherwise are > being dishonest isn't healthy and is in no comparison to the Metallica > analogy. Demanding better sound quality of an album and outrightly stating > that whatever that's been churned out in the last 10 years is rubbish are two > different things. Because if it's been that long, then I guess you may no > longer be a fan of his music because at the end of the day change is the only > constant thing in the world. And music is no exception to > that.  > > > > From: wiredbeats <wiredbe...@...> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Mon, 16 August, 2010 10:26:53 > Subject: Re: [arr] THE RAHMAN TODAY---doesnt look good-- > >  > > > > > I have a big point to make but first... > > Listen to this story. > > When Mettalica released their album Death metalic, few sections of the > devoted fans blasted the sound quality. While most of them loved the album in > it totality. The minority of fans who disliked the album found another > strange thing. >  > Few select tracks from the album were included in the popular console game > guitar hero and the versions in guitar hero was far more clear as against the > heavily compressed and noisy tracks in the CD. >  > Soon, the fans made such a noise that they forced the recording company to > send the entire album for re-mastering. The minority of fans who started the > noise that the album sucks, became a potent force for metallica band to > relook at the way their albums are recorded and engineered. >  > I know the whole story and its very interesing on how few fans, moved the > metallica band and their recording company.But thats for later. >  > To me...this is the true fan base.This what an accomplished artist requires. > A brutal fan base, which does not dilute reviews and certianly does not > worship everything thats churned out. >  > We as Rahman fan group are evolving and we will get there in terms of > maturity. As such, already we together comprise the most intelligent and > organised fan group any indian artist has. >  > So lets give people some room to be critical and even harsh at times. No > problem. Not liking an song or album is as normal as liking. > you gotta be kidding if you say, i like all of rahman's tracks. Even he > himself may not be liking all! > > >  > Remixes I Originals I Opinions at  http://www.wiredbeats.com  > > > > > > > From: Indmov Buff <indmovb...@...> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Mon, 16 August, 2010 5:50:39 AM > Subject: Re: [arr] THE RAHMAN TODAY---doesnt look good-- > >  > > > Shai, > > is this the same guy who thought Raavan was a "my god" album! You even said > that it was better than VTV and a masterpiece. What happened? And don't > worry, Mani Ratnam is not going Harris Jeyeraj's way. And to answer your > question > > "wat international commitments have made him today...nothing..." > > Have you forgotten the "international commitment" that brought AR two > significant Oscars along with many other reputed music awards bestowed on an > Indian for the first time! Come on Shai. Please try not to use phrases like " > it makes me sic". AR is not our property. He is not our slave for him to do > "something for us because we are his fans". He should be and is a slave to > music and only music-that's why we are here. I think he deserves respect > for that and enjoy what we can. Not all his albums may please you but > remember that it pleases someone else out there. That's life. "Like a box of > chocolates! " > > > > > > > > From: shai <nbk4...@...> > To: [email protected] > Cc: nbk4...@... > Sent: Sun, 15 August, 2010 20:36:48 > Subject: Re: [arr] THE RAHMAN TODAY---doesnt look good-- > >  > > > > > > > hey bro, >  > i agree wit ur comments...very true....its more to his brand name now....if > endhiran doesnt have the line music by ar rahman i wouldnt have listned to > it....only bcoz i believe that song compose by arrahman should be good making > me to like the music a little more..thats all.... >  > i wouldnt be surprise if shankar go on to work with harris jayaraj after this > bcoz.nowday wat am i hearing always is rahman busy wit concerts,rahman busy > with his international commitments...it really makes me sick...wat do i as a > fan of his get till now...wat international commitments have made him > today...nothing....do we really want to listen to english songs from an > english movie which will not be like tamil or hindi songs that are so so > soulful... >  > rahman's success today is bcoz of his 90's songs...people are always talking > about his 90's songs...but i now that delhi 6 is very very good...but in the > 90's we get 3 or 4 delhi 6 standard of an album each year..... >  > now he is busy with concerts...those who attended his concert will get the > chance to see him and listen to his best songs...but this year he hasnt > signed any movies so far....why?there are millions that couldnt go for his > concert,wat will they get? >  > i m enjoying endhiran{stand alone} but do u think its an album for a movie > worth 120 million crores.....i dun think so..sivaji was perfect...nobody > complained...if we compare endhiran wit previous shankar's albums ,wat do u > feel...?mukalla muqabla song from the movie kadhalan was fantastic music at > that time even now...the song is great enough to make people love him...but > irumbile oru idhayam is indeed just a good song but we only liked it after > listening many times why?thats the psychology...listening to a song for 10 > days will make u like the song bcoz u are listening to like the song and not > listening to a song that u like...its different... >  > *90's = his music took him to reach greater heights >  > *today = he is taking his music to reach greater heights.....think carefully > which one do prefer... > > guys ...please understand ,im writing this as my personal oppinion...u can > share ur views about it or even advise me if i m wrong...but dun be stupid by > bashing me ....i m one of u who love to see arrahman get to reach greater > heights by producing soulful songs...not soulful sound.....please forgive me > if my comments hurt u guys.....sincerely.... >  > i dont one to see one day mani ratnam's upcoming movie's music is composed by > harris jayaraj...{his music is soulful,cheaper,faster and he has no concerts > or international commitments to make directors wait for million years for his > music) > > --- On Sun, 8/15/10, krishna prasad <mkrishl...@...> wrote: > > > From: krishna prasad <mkrishl...@...> > Subject: [arr] THE RAHMAN TODAY > To: [email protected] > Date: Sunday, August 15, 2010, 2:14 AM > > >  > > > > > > Hi friends, > > The Rahman today is more dependent on his brand name than on the strength of > his music > or his tunes may be with the exception of a VTV or a RAVAN cos when i was > listening to > Endiran ( it was really a good album) but the fact was the music arrangement > was not anything we could associate with Rahman. I was listening to Endiran > as it was composed > by Rahman only and if it had been by any other composer the critics would hav > shred > it to pieces. > > I understand that Rahman is busy with his international assignments and he > his taking up > tamil projects as they are forced on him. > > Dear sir don't take up any tamil projects and if you do, we need nothing > short of a RAHMAN ALBUM meeting all the criteria associated with you.I feel > this is something you could do to your dear old TAMIL FANS. > > The main point i would like to make is that Rahman's music should be enjoyed > by > EVERYONE and not just people would understand the finer aspects of Rahman's > music > which is what is happening right now as more and more people get alienated > from our Oscar winner. Remember even Buddha's teaching could not have got the > due acceptance > if it had been so complex. > > I feel someone could take up this matter with boss, not as a compliant but as > a general > media feedback. > > regards > Krishna >
