I think whatever the outcome of Rahman-Ashu combo...it's totally Rahman's contribution... if u go for Ashu-'s 1st directorial venture (Bazi starring Amir Khan) am sure u'll be laughing at hearing the songs and BGMs.
Ashu killed a beautiful song called "Yeh jo desh" in Swadesh with poor picturisation. Mani's thinking is far beyond than Ashu's... I think no one other than Mani can give an idea to compose songs in "Chor Chor/thiruda thiruda". The BGM of Dil Se...the song concept for "Dile Se re", "satrangee re".... its like awesome. Take any song from Roja... in India "rukmani rukmani" is 1st song of its kind... and think about the picturization. What abt "iruvar"/"Kannathil muthamittal"/"Bombay"/"Alepaudey"/"GURU"?? The best thing of mani-arr combo is the freshness and new blend... something never before heard... be it songs or bmg...so innovative.... Innivation also noted in RDB BGMs...... I am telling u the diff between Ashu and Rakesh mehera in terms of innovation: The song "Ghanana ghanana"... the part "Mana dharkaye bijuria" in 3 times (lyrics may be wrong)...its called a "Tihai" in hindustani classical... but what Rahman did in the last phrase he added "mana mana dharkaye bijuria"....which is technically not correct or out of beat... but musically awesome and innovative... but I am sure...this is coming completely out of Rahman's musical mind...no contribution from Ashu. Now consider the song "Khalbali" "ziddi..." a totally misfit song to the Rebels in 1940's India... but "Ziddi.." portion is being played when Bhagat Sing and his followers are fasting.... here Rakesh is injecting the song in right place.... Also take the moment the patriots are hiding and British police chasing...and a rock kind of guiter is in background...just like telling "I'll break free"...this is innovation, again Rahman is injected by Director.... but in Ashu's movies songs and bgms are contemporary... real good compositions but not surprising. Anyway... all these are my personal feelings... Arijit On 21/02/2008, Pradeepan R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > the reason why Ashutosh-ARR combo works well is because > CONSCIOUSLY & INTENTIONALLY Ashutosh makes the movie with plenty of scope > for BGM. > > for example. consider a scene from Lagaan. > Indian batsman gets hit on the head. > Ashu intentionally shows reactions from atleast 4 or 5 characters for well > over a second, with closeup of their faces. > This definitely needs a good BGM. > > another example from Swades. > SRK stares at the open sky for a few seconds upto a minute. > There HAS to be a BGM there.. > > with Mani, things are more casual - less cinematic (may be termed as > mature). > But still ARR has lot of chances for good BGM, but not so much as the > SOngs itself. > Mani gives ARR a great chance for scoring songs - that can be heard with > the movie as well as without any idea of the Movie.. > > with Ashu, its more blended with the movie.. > I'm not comparing Ashu & Mani , but it will be appropriate to conclude > that > > - Ashu will make a great director for a real 'musical'. (ARR should use > him if he plans to make a musical in India). > - Mani will make a great director for fact based, closer to life style > movies. > > But its too early to judge which combo is better :)) > > On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 9:30 AM, Arijit Debnath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > To me Mani-ARR is the best combo, nothing else matters.... > > > > Arijit > > > > > > On 21/02/2008, Pravinder Sheoran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Guys, > > > After a lot lot of thinking process, i have come to the conclusion > > > that its time now to accept that ARR - Ashutosh combination has > > > surpassed ARR - Mani Ratnam combination (which has been no.1 for a > > > long long time now). > > > It may be that many times Rahman Saab composes out of the world songs > > > for Mani Ratnam and Mani Sir also comes out with many ground breaking > > > videos for A R Rahman many times. > > > > > > But when it comes to be a combined effect, i think ARR and Ashutosh > > > give more delightful output which is best in terms of situation > > > handling > > > (I mean the songs are according to the situation of the movie) without > > > compromising the quality and taking care of popularity as well. > > > > > > Its really a tough decision though, i might be influenced by the > > > factor that JA has just been released and has a huge temporary effect > > > on my mind (Which may prove to be a permanent effect as well). > > > > > > AGREE or DISAGREE? > > > > > > Pravinder. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Cheers, > Pradeepan. > > "All you need to do is decide what to do with the time that is given to > you !" > > >

