On 7/23/05 5:40 AM India Time, _ST_ wrote:

> Whether a song can be put in another film is dependent on much more
> than just the "period" element. Inparticular storyline, and the
> director. every director is unique in his story telling style and even
> songs from that era just wouldnt fit in.

I was mentioning just the music, and not the movies.

You must be having all ARR's song on your pc.

Just queue three-four songs of zubaidaa in winamp, and then
queue a pukaar song at the end. Listen to this set two or
three times. This way try with different songs/films mixed
from period and non-period movies.

What I am saying that you will not feel a time warp in such 
sets, something that you will sure feel if you hear a "kadam 
kadam badhaaye jaa" put between saathiyaa songs.

> 
> The second factor is the audience. During the Mughal-e-Azam time the
> audience composition was entirely different. Rising/lagaan brought out
> the priod element that appeals us, rather than the demographic of 20
> or so yrs ago. And even Mughal-e-Azam had traits of the time it was
> composed in..

Some starting popular music defined the music of a
particular period. Mughal-e-azam defined what mughal music
was. Godaan defined what UP music was. pakeezah defined what
kothaa music was. Anil Biswas defined what poor man's music
was. O P Nayyar defined what sexy, tantalizing, provocative
music was. S D Burman defined what Bengali and Nepali music was.

People bought those definitions. People expect similar
sounds in any new album of that genre. Whichever MD gives
the same feel in a new album becomes a hit, whichever MD
does too much experimentation to disturb the basic
definition gets ignored.

> Of course, I can't prove any of this without a tape.

it is ok. i think you have sensed the concept. no need of
elaborate r&d.

> 
> I havent seen most of the movies you mention.

not seeing, but hearing the albums is all that is needed.
You must have heard the song, especially mughal-e-azam numbers.

You can't imagine shammii kappor singing any mughal-e-azam
song after singing "yahoo koii mujhe junglee kahe".

you can't imagine madhubaalaa singing "sapane suhaane
ladakpan ke" nor "aapakii nazaron ne samajhaa pyaar ke
qaabil mujhe" in mughal-e-azam.

dilip kumar will look stupid cheapo if he sings "zaraa
nazaro.n se kah do jii" or "patalii qamar hai tirachhii
nazar hai" to madhubaalaa in mughal-e-azam.

jodhabai (durgakhote, mother of dilip in M-E-A) can't sing
"jyoti kalash chhalake" with kid dilip kumar.

akbar can't sing "ham us des ke waasii hai.n jis desh me.n
gangaa bahatii hai."

someone had said that mughal-e-azam songs can be exchanges
with any film's songs of that decade. I am saying "no". That
is what makes mughal-e-azam a period film that has become a
benchmark for all period films.

How much near ARR's music in jodhaa akbar is to the music of
mughal-e-azam will dictate the fate of jodha-akbar music/
film going a hit or a flop.

-- 
Rawat








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