Hi John,

> Perfectly sensible – and similar to what space agencies would are likely do 
> if they were to receive their own allocation: allocating one prefix per body 
> internally to allow per-body aggregation, and issuing space to projects based 
> on the most expected celestial body of operation. 


Unfortunately, that’s not what’s happening.  I’m told that agencies are picking 
random IPv4 prefixes from their normal assignments, without any thought to 
aggregation, either internally or cross-agency.  We need this draft and 
corresponding RIR policies to take back to them and help them with aggregation.


> But of course that also means that if providers instead received their own 
> aggregate blocks for all all activities  – regardless of celestial location – 
> then under normal circumstances each provider would advertise a single 
> covering aggregate across the deep space Internet. Aggregation would follow 
> provider infrastructure, similar to terrestrial ISP models.


That works if and only if the topology is agency exclusive.

If, on the other hand, the agencies share infrastructure, as is now being 
proposed, it means that routing will need to carry per-mission prefixes 
throughout the infrastructure, as the topology no longer aligns with addressing.


> It does seem like the actual operational aggegation and net routing load 
> would be quite sensitive to number of celestial-body interconnects that end 
> up in routine operation – and that celestial-body-based allocation would in 
> normal circumstances require each provider to carry N routes (N being number 
> of celestial body-assigned allocations it received) on its own network both 
> internally and to shared with others to maintain full connectivity. 


That is correct.  Aggregation is sensitive to topology.  If the topology is 
provider-exclusive, then you would want to aggregate that way.  However, if the 
topology is provider-shared, then you would want to aggregate geographically.


>> The challenge with that is that we end up doing effectively random 
>> allocation and completely lose out on the ability to aggregate.  The primary 
>> purpose of all addressing is to make routing efficient, and it seems like we 
>> would be well served to take this opportunity to not repeat previous 
>> inefficiencies.
> 
> You suggest that a model where each space agency gets its own aggregate block 
> for all its missions is effectively random allocation?? Could you elaborate 
> on that?   


Today, through lack of suitable authoritative direction, each agency is acting 
independently and allocating per-mission prefixes without any thought to 
aggregation, internally or externally.  One can hardly blame them, as this is 
well outside of the mission scope and expertise.


> Provider-based allocation allows naturally for aggregation across 
> infrastructure – as you are aware, the IPv4 “swamp" referenced in the draft 
> is a result of provider-independent (PI) assignments for terminus networks – 
> many being made pre-CIDR era, and others due to provider-independent 
> allocation policies at the RIRs since…    I guess the question is whether we 
> expect a lot of requests for IP address space that not affiliated with any 
> deep space network - do you have an estimate?


Provider-based allocation allows for natural aggregation if there is a 
provider-based topology.  Provider-shared topologies break that natural 
aggregation.

Another example of where provider-based allocation breaks down is deaggregation 
for inbound traffic engineering purposes. Content providers deaggregate so that 
routing will direct traffic to a specific entry point to their network.  If 
providers could get geographic allocations, then some aggregation would be 
possible across these providers.

Provider-based allocation is our favorite tool, but it is not optimal in all 
cases. We should consider all of the abstraction tools that we have available, 
because scaling is an ongoing problem.

Tony


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