Please explain what is confusing about the current usage of both LIR and ISP?
The following Blog post from ARIN seems perfectly straightforward to me; https://www.arin.net/blog/2023/02/28/ISP-or-end-user/ And the following page is about Requesting IP addresses. https://www.arin.net/resources/guide/request/ They both seem to address the idea that LIR and ISP are effectively the same thing. Organizations that want to consider themselves as ISPs can, and those that don't want to consider themselves as ISPs have the term LIR. I don't see any advantage in making the term LIR go away or any confusion around the term. Thanks On Fri, Sep 19, 2025 at 4:41 PM William Herrin <[email protected]> wrote: > On Fri, Sep 19, 2025 at 12:50 PM Owen DeLong via ARIN-PPML > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Why does the NRPM have to match ARIN internal terminology? > > While I would encourage ARIN to adopt a better internal use of > terminology, I don’t see that as relevant to the policy process at all. > > Hi Owen, > > Can you explain how it would benefit the community for ARIN to use one > set of terminology in the NRPM and a different set of terminology in > its communication with registrants? > > ARIN uses "ISP" in its software and operating practices, and > occasionally "LIR/ISP." If we want to zero in on a different term of > art, I think we have to expect the organization to harmonize on that > term. Consistency is just good communication practice. Zeroing in on a > term other than ISP will incur a cost in changed documents, modified > training and updated software. > > On the other hand, adjustments to the NRPM definition of ISP that > don't particularly alter ARIN's practices, and harmonizing the NRPM on > that term, carry a negligible cost. > > Regards, > Bill Herrin > > > -- > William Herrin > [email protected] > https://bill.herrin.us/ > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-PPML > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues. > -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:[email protected] Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 ===============================================
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