Hello All,
Thank you for the thoughtful perspectives shared — I hear strong points on both sides: • LIR aligns with global terminology and avoids the vernacular baggage of “ISP.” • ISP is consistent with ARIN’s historic usage and avoids confusion with structures (like NIRs) that don’t exist in our region. To bridge this, I’d suggest we converge on a practical editorial approach: • Select one preferred term for the NRPM (ISP or LIR). • Add a clear definition note stating that ISP and LIR are used interchangeably in ARIN policy. This way, ARIN policy remains globally intelligible while providing clarity to our community. Would others support moving in this direction? Best, Mohibul Mahmud Cloud Engineer, Microsoft ARIN Advisory Council Candidate https://www.linkedin.com/in/mohibul-mahmud-8592326/ On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 11:26 PM John Santos <[email protected]> wrote: > If having a new name with no baggage would help, maybe something like > "Delegated > Resource Registry" would work. > > > On 9/17/2025 6:35 PM, William Herrin wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 1:13 PM David Farmer <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I think you are referring to National Internet Registries (NIRs), > >> which are not called Local Internet Registries (LIRs) and are > >> not confused with LIRs. > > Hi David, > > > > Either way the point remains: sub-registries in the other regions are > > not inherently expected to be the operators of the infrastructure > > services with which those IP addresses are used. ARIN has some gray > > area on the subject, but the rule to which exceptions apply is that > > your IP addresses are either coming from your network provider or > > directly from ARIN, not a different party altogether. ARIN is not a > > LIR and the "registry" terminology for your network provider is a poor > > fit. If anyone hates the "ISP" terminology, I respectfully ask them to > > suggest a better phrase, not a worse one. > > > > Regards, > > Bill Herrin > > > > > -- > John Santos > Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc. > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-PPML > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues. >
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