Mr. Lu -

To be clear, the article was posted to ARIN ppml mailing list so that the ARIN 
community is aware of ARIN’s stance on this matter.

It is expected that members of the community may have questions or wish to 
discuss it (yourself included) – hence it is perfectly appropriate for anyone 
to respond to it here on the arin-ppml list.

Best wishes,
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
American Registry for Internet Numbers


On 27 Aug 2021, at 3:44 PM, Lu Heng 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:


Hi John,


While I see no relevance to continue this discussion at ARIN PPML as it has no 
relevance to ARIN policy matters, maybe the AUP committee can make a suggestion 
as to whether we should we continue discussion here or somewhere else? The 
detail ARIN requested at that time was Personal identifying Information of our 
customers that we do not have. I openly said this in one of the ARIN public 
policy meetings. To best of my memory I stated something alone the line of  “If 
that is what ARIN insist we provide, we will not further respond in the request 
since we do not process nor do we intend to to collect such information. as I 
personally think it is immoral to do so. John, do you really think it 
appropriate to make accusations and innuendos against someone for protecting 
the personal data of their customers? As for the the question you asked, it is 
potentially part of ongoing litigation process that we are not able to comment 
publicly, why don’t you wait for the court to decide just like rest of public 
but pushing it entirely out of ARIN’s mandate for an answer entirely irrelevant 
to ARIN’s operation?


And just for clarification, while I have a business relationship with Owen, he 
does not speak for me or cloud innovation, his view is entirely his own and 
mine are mine. Just like anyone working for any company here on this list. 
Their views are entirely their own and do not constitute a press release for 
the corporation they work for.


Apologies to the nanog list: while I understand this is not appropriate place 
to reply address this topic, I believe John’s reply makes it necessary for me 
to provide at least one reply to clarify, as long as John not future engage in 
the list for the discussion, I will refrain from further posting in this thread.


I’m also pretty sure that since this has nothing to do with ARIN Policy, it’s 
not appropriate fodder for PPML, either, but I will leave that between John and 
the ARIN mailing list AUP committee to address.



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