On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 2:53 PM, John Curran <[email protected]> wrote: > On Dec 24, 2014, at 2:26 PM, William Herrin <[email protected]> wrote: >> 2. I disagree with spinning it as an existing policy flaw. There's a >> ARIN -implementation- flaw here. Classically and consistent with the >> spirit of ICP2, the RIRs allow minor outregion use of addresses that's >> incidental to an in-region operation. And you know what? You haven't >> been the slightest bit shy about deciding that external documents like >> ICP2 and RFC2050 constrain ARIN activity in other matters like the /10 >> for large scale NAT. I don't know how ARIN got itself twisted up where >> it couldn't find the limits of "minor" and "incidental" but trying to >> override that with rigid policy requirements is going to be >> problematic. > > > With respect to incidental out-of-region usage, you are incorrect in that > we presently do allow such incidental usage, but the resources that are > requested must be based upon demand within the region. This point has been > explained several times, including in the ARIN 31 Policy Experience Report > <https://www.arin.net/participate/meetings/reports/ARIN_31/PDF/monday/nobile_policy.pdf>
Hi John, I understand this statement to mean that ARIN currently deems ARIN addresses employed on equipment outside the region to be "unused" when determining a registrant's qualification. Is that correct? This is different than my understanding of the referenced document which, to me, implies that use outside the region is considered if the organization exists as a legal entity within the region. Staff then express frustration at how to verify utilization of those addresses used outside the region. Regards, Bill Herrin -- William Herrin ................ [email protected] [email protected] Owner, Dirtside Systems ......... Web: <http://www.dirtside.com/> May I solve your unusual networking challenges? _______________________________________________ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues.
