Amen! I agree 100% with what you have described below.
Steven Ryerse
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-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Thompson [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 2:28 PM
To: Steven Ryerse; John Curran
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] 2014-1 Out of Region Use
On 14-12-15 12:34 PM, Steven Ryerse wrote:
> I would point out that very clearly, anyone who wanted a /24 got one from
> Jon, just by requesting one. I was one of the many folks who requested and
> received a /24. I also requested 4 consecutive /24's (Class C's) for a larger
> customer and received those as well. I'm also reasonably sure that if I had
> requested a /8 (Class A) - I would not have gotten one - but I would not have
> gotten zero resources.
>
> The first word in item #1 below is Fair. I agree we need balance and as I
> think you know by now I strongly do not think current policy is FAIR at the
> small end. When big org requests big block they either get a big block or a
> smaller block. When medium org requests medium block they either get medium
> block or they get smaller block. When small org requests small block they
> either get small block or NO BLOCK. This is inherently UNFAIR in my opinion.
> I see no balance when a small org is discriminated against because they are
> small and have limited means. Thus Dave and Sue in their garage without the
> proverbial business plan or whatever to prove their need are shut out - and
> that is against ARINs Mission.
Adding my $0.02, and to some extent probably setting up a straw-man
argument:
While I agree that *some* needs-based testing seems reasonable even for a /24,
I feel the barrier should be minimal - i.e. prove that a legal entity exists
(including a Legal Person, which can include an individual
person) and has valid contact information.
In fact, if the needs test were removed altogether for /24s, I would expect
this scenario to play out:
- all /24s get depleted rapidly
- ARIN no longer issues /24s, and continues to employ needs-based testing
for larger blocks
- the commercial transfer market becomes the only place to get /24s
- a market value for /24 rapidly is established and more-or-less settles
- the "Joe & Sue in a garage" client now has two choices:
a) buy a portable /24 from a transfer market and register it with
ARIN, if they have the resources to do so, or
b) accept (and/or negotiate) whatever their ISP gives them, if they do
not.
This scenario could - potentially - ease ARIN's workload noticeably in the
very-small end of the spectrum, while allowing the free market to control
whether a new entrant gets PI space or not.
This works analogously to the way the real-estate market works: if you can't
afford commercial space, you start in your garage or basement, and you move out
once you can afford commercial real estate. If you can afford a storefront
retail location, go ahead and pay for it - whether you ever open up to the
public or not, whether you use it or not.
If you can't afford a tiny PI allocation, use whatever your ISP gives you. If
you can, go ahead and pay for it - whether you use it or not.
To rebut in advance the usual bogeyman of "but, speculators!":
counter-intuitively, speculators are not a bad thing. (See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defending_the_Undefendable for an accessible
analysis of how speculators are necessary in a Capitalist
system.)
Is the company that owns the shopping mall a "speculator"? What about the
REITs, developers and other types of companies that buy up land and then sell
it to individuals? The function of a "speculator" is to help smooth out price
fluctuations. I have no interest whatsoever in seeing a "spot" market for PI
space.
In short, I would be willing to support removing needs-based testing for /24s.
It would harm people like myself, who run an entire ASN off a /24, but at the
same time would benefit the most typical sort of entity (also like myself ;-)
who needs a tiny PI block: multi-homed organizations who need redundancy but
can't otherwise meet the utilization threshold. Their numbers are increasing
all the time, and are reflective of small- and medium-business numbers overall
in North America, which in turn (according to multiple gov t and academic
sources) are what drives growth in North America. I don't have any idea what
the politico-economic situation is like in the Caribbean, so don't make any
claims about that.
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-Adam Thompson
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Fax: +1 204 489-6515
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