On Wed, 2006-07-05 at 23:14 +0100, James Courtier-Dutton wrote:
> Santiago Garcia Mantinan wrote:
> > Hi!
> > 
> > After upgrading to 2.6.17 skype on my Creative SB AWE64 PnP started to sound
> > with really metallic voices, the speed and the tone seems similar to real
> > but the voice is really metallic. I have tracked that down a bit, but don't
> > really know what the problem is.
> > 
> > I'm only able to find this problem with skype not with kiax or other similar
> > software, the problem happens with the stable skype or with the latest beta
> > they have in oss mode (they are adding alsa but that looks also broken for
> > my card).
> > 
> > I've tracked that down to the changes from alsa version 1.0.11-rc2 to rc3,
> > in fact I compiled those two versions for 2.4.33-rc2 and got the very same
> > problems with 1.0.11-rc3 and later versions while 1.0.11-rc2 worked ok.
> > Also, PCI cards seem to work ok with skype and modern versions of alsa, so
> > I guess this bug could be related to awe cards, maybe all sb16 based stuff.
> > 
> > After looking at the changes in my configurations for rc2 and rc3 or later
> > versions (I even tested version 1.0.12-rc1) I saw that rc2 didn't yet have
> > the new oss-plugins, so I said, ok we'll remove the oss-plugins from -rc3 or
> > later with --without-pcm-oss-plugins on configure and that'll do it.
> > 
> > Wrong, after removing the oss plugins the voice I get when calling the skype
> > test is ok but I get silences in the middle of it which makes it last longer
> > than it should and continue after the "ding", also when I hear back what has
> > been recorded the tone of my voice is really much higher than it should,
> > even though the speed of it seems similar than it should.
> > 
> > Well, like I said... I have only managed to find this kind of problems with
> > skype (I'd sugest you use the stable version if you want to test it) and
> > they are implementing alsa support, so if the bug only happens with skype
> > maybe it's not worth the effort, but it looks to me that this is a problem
> > that other programs may also have, and that is why I'm reporting it.
> > 
> > Machines used for my tests were Pentium III and AMD K6-3, using Debian sid
> > and testing (they have alsa libs 1.0.11).
> > 
> > Well, if you need more info or tests just ask for what you need. Thanks for
> > making ALSA so good.
> > 
> > Regards...
> 
> It seems that your thread has been hijacked, so I thought I would fix
> this, but telling you how to fix your problem.
> Your problem is caused by feedback.
> The "alsamixer" has many gain controls. Without seeing the output of
> amixer, it is hard to tell exactly which mixer control is set wrongly.
> Essentially, make sure that the mic gain is set to a minimum or mute on
> the playback view of alsamixer, and make sure pcm gain is set to minimum
> or mute on the capture view of alsamixer.
> 
> This will ensure that feedback does not occur inside the hardware mixer
> of the sound card.

James,

Do you think it's significant that the behavior changed from 1.0.11-rc2
to rc3?

Lee


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