Hallo, Bill Unruh hat gesagt: // Bill Unruh wrote: > That "right thing" increases the noise level of the card and the > distorition of the card. Just as resampling in time does it, so does > resampling in amplitude. Now I do not know how the volumes on teh cards > do things, but if they do it by changing the analog output, that is the > "right way".
Yes, but what if the soundcard has no mixer? Then you cannot really use XMMS anymore, because you cannot change the volume with XMMS. I still can lower the volume with Alsaplayer. These are not exactly professional studio applications (there you would probably have an external mixer anyways), but simple, consumer applications. And in this area, XMMS fails, because it relies on a soundcard mixer, which might not be present. (Does anyone know, if Jack uses the ALSA mixer? I guess it doesn't) If I'd want to use a mixer on a card, that has one, I can use alsamixer... > Also alsamixer is a klunky curses based program-- nicley portable, but > pretty ugly and horrible to use. Some things were made for a gui and > setting volumes, etc is one of them. ... or gamix or maybe some other mixers. I think, Matthias Nagorni also wrote a nice one. I often use envy24control, which is card specific, but very slick. > > I don't see a place for OSS mixers anymore, I've uninstalled them all. > > Fine, and you advocate forcing your own personal peculiarities on the > world? Not at all. But I would rather see more ALSA native mixers or software that uses the ALSA mixer interface, than always trying to force the old OSS model into ALSA. But yes, I also think, that there are more important things to develop in ALSA than the mixer bridge between OSS and the ALSA mixer. I fully understand, that OSS emu is here to stay for quite some time, maybe "forever", and btw. the software I use most of the time, Pd, even runs better over OSS emulation than over ALSA (and does not use a Mixer interface), but some things just don't map very well between OSS and ALSA. One of these things is support for mixing of multichannel cards. (Btw: I just found out, that I still have aumix installed...) ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__ ------------------------------------------------------- The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and Integration See the breadth of Eclipse activity. February 3-5 in Anaheim, CA. http://www.eclipsecon.org/osdn _______________________________________________ Alsa-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
