On Sun, May 10, 2026 at 2:42 AM Gregory Hayes via agora-discussion <
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> > On May 9, 2026, at 8:58 PM, Aris via agora-discussion <
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> > On Sat, May 9, 2026 at 5:07 PM Gregory Hayes via agora-discussion <
> > [email protected]> wrote:
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> >> Fair argument, I guess "prohibit" is not the same thing as "prevent", so
> >> the rules could be interpreted as preventing an action with no mechanism
> >> without prohibiting it.
> >> I do note that if Rule 2713's "as described in this rule" clause blocks
> >> this, it also blocks scoring numbers from Agoran birthdays and welcome
> >> packages.
> >> - Galle
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> > I suspect that the rules do prevent you from doing this. But I think you
> > might be missing a part of what ais523 is saying: even if the rules don't
> > prevent you from doing something, that doesn't mean you can do it. A
> player
> > can send a message saying "I teleport to the moon", and no rule prohibits
> > such teleportation. That doesn't mean that the player is on the moon,
> which
> > is likely fortunate for their well-being. There simply isn't any reason
> > that action should work.
> >
> > There's a precedent somewhere that there are some actions you can do by
> > announcement even without the rules saying so, like celebrating. Saying
> "I
> > celebrate x" is arguably enough to celebrate the thing, under the common
> > language definition of celebrating, and no rule stops you from
> celebrating
> > in this way. But I don't see how scoring a number is something you can
> just
> > naturally do. And even if you could (say you invented a game where you
> > could score a number by saying it, and thus scored points in that game by
> > announcement), I don't think the rules would pay attention to it.
> >
> > -Aris
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> No, I do understand that, I just don't think there's any textual support
> for the claim that mechanism-less actions are necessarily impossible in the
> rules. If they're impossible, that's a matter of Rule 217 interpretation,
> which makes Rule 2125 potentially relevant. I was just saying that
> technically that interpretation doesn't involve PROHIBITING unregulated
> actions so much as preventing them, or interpreting them as not being
> possible to begin with.
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> - Galle


My sincere apologies for misunderstanding you then!

You're right, it's not textually in the rules. I think it's a natural part
of the way reality works, but the fact that people keep trying such things
means that my interpretation may not be entirely common sense. But yeah,
precedent and game custom weigh strongly here.

-Aris

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