On Wed, 2025-11-12 at 08:39 -0500, Janet Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > > > And, regardless, I don't think that's a fair characterization of 9260. > > > It's a rebalancing, certainly, but it would come with sufficient notice > > > for people to plan around, and it would apply equally as well to anyone > > > else trying to start playing the subgame. > > I don't follow. There are already at least five players with more than 16 > > hectares, and those are investments that can't be reversed at this point. > > Certainly I agree it's worse for people who have played than the status > quo. (And note that 16 was chosen as the number in the welcome package, > i.e. as the base allocation, not as "people who are already wealthy".) I > do, however, disagree that this is a "kneecapping", but it's possible > we're just defining that differently. > > Regardless, having *zero* chance for people who start playing later to > catch up (whether because they're newly registered or just got around to > it) does not, in my view, produce interesting gameplay. This would be > one way of at least starting to address that; I'm happy to hear > alternatives. (The "reset on each radiance win" proposal is one of them.)
This sort of thing is actually classic nomic gameplay that I've seen all the time at other nomics, and is rare in recent Agora primarily because we keep repealing the economy. The basic principle is that it's unwise to exploit a broken interaction to the level that it unbalances the rest of the game, unless you are able to use it to obtain a win immediately. This is because continuing to play in an unbalanced game (or a game where one or a few players are very far ahead to the extent that it excludes everyone else) is pointless and not particularly fun, so it makes sense for everyone else to remove the advantage by proposal (and much of the resulting gameplay is about negotiating how much, if any, of the advantage gets to be kept). This sort of thing also occasionally happens in reverse (someone scams a large quantity of a resource that doesn't have a use yet, and the consequence is that nobody is ever willing to give it one). -- ais523
