On Mon, Aug 12, 2024 at 4:32 PM Mischief via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On 8/11/24 8:29 PM, secretsnail9 via agora-business wrote: > > Thank you 4st for reminding me! Somehow it's been months since they were > > mentioned. > > > > On 5/13/24 18:45, Joshua Boehme via agora-business wrote: > >> I CFJ on the statement "Elysion is a fugitive of the old law" > >> > > This is CFJ 4080. I judge it TRUE. > > > >> > >> I CFJ on the statement "Elysion is still a fugitive of the old law" > > > > This is CFJ 4081. I judge it TRUE. > > > > Arguments: > > > > This judgement relies on a few assumptions: > > > > 1) The Herald's report has been ratified to include Elysion's status as a > > fugitive of the old law. > > > > 2) Proposal 8617 to forgive all fugitives failed due to ambiguous > wording. > > > > 3) Nothing else has happened that would change Elysion's status as a > > fugitive of the old law. > > > > As all of these seem to be true, I have judged TRUE. > > 3) doesn't address the crux of CFJ 4081 -- that is, whether or not > "fugitive of the old law" is regulated by the rules. I contend that it's > not; even if it was once a patent title, the report has since ratified > it to be an "unofficial designation" and thus not a patent title. > > If my contention is true, then since rule 2125 explicitly permits all > unregulated actions, even as (at the time) a non-player my action to > clear the designation in between calling the two CFJs should have > succeeded. > Classic "I said I did, therefore I did." In this case, clearing the designation is an unregulated action, but not one that the rules describe as being able to have an effect on the game, so it does nothing. In regards to the "ratification", the Herald's report only includes Patent titles. The "unofficial designation" part, which seems to be a comment, could not have ratified, as it isn't part of the ratifying report (as a comment is not a patent title). -- snail
