You can CoE it because it makes the proposal list, which is self-ratifying, invalid.
-Aris On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 8:04 PM Rebecca <edwardostra...@gmail.com> wrote: > These aren't real CoEs anyway, remember. There's no obligation for > proposals to be distributed at the same time. So you can't really CoE an > omission, only finger point an untimely one. > > On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 1:00 PM Aris Merchant < > thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > *OH.* Whoops. Yeah, it's good. For some reason (maybe because the > > number was the same? my error in any case) I was sure that the link > > was the same as in your previous email; it definitely wasn't though. > > Yeah, your CoE totally worked. > > > > -Aris > > > > On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 7:58 PM Jason Cobb <jason.e.c...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > The link I pasted was (my attempt at) sending it to the public forum. > Is > > > replying and setting the to address to agora-business not enough? > > > > > > Jason Cobb > > > > > > On 7/1/19 10:55 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > > > > Roger on the proposal, and again, I'm sorry. It's your CoE that's > > NttPF. > > > > > > > > -Aris > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 7:52 PM Jason Cobb <jason.e.c...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > >> It's fine. It's not urgent in light of the judgment on CFJ 3737, so > it > > > >> can just wait. Also, it was submitted to the public forum here [0]. > > > >> > > > >> [0]: > > > >> > > > https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2019-July/040745.html > > > >> > > > >> Jason Cobb > > > >> > > > >> On 7/1/19 10:48 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > > > >>> NttPF. > > > >>> > > > >>> On the merits, accepted, with my sincere apologies. I could patch > > this > > > >>> by submitting a revised distribution now, but then the proposal > might > > > >>> not reach quorum (quorum is 7 ATM, which is pretty high, and people > > > >>> tend to forget to vote on special distributions). Or I could wait > and > > > >>> put it in the next distribution. Neither is a great option, and I'm > > > >>> sorry to put you in this situation. I'll do whichever you prefer as > > > >>> proposal author. > > > >>> > > > >>> -Aris > > > >>> > > > >>> On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 7:09 PM Jason Cobb <jason.e.c...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > >>>> Claim of error: I submitted the proposal "Regulated actions reform > > (v2)" > > > >>>> here [0]. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> [0]: > > > >>>> > > > https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2019-June/040719.html > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Jason Cobb > > > >>>> > > > >>>> On 7/1/19 9:55 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > > > >>>>> I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating the Agoran > > > >>>>> Decision of whether to adopt it, and removing it from the > proposal > > > >>>>> pool. For this decision, the vote collector is the Assessor, the > > > >>>>> quorum is 7, the voting method is AI-majority, and the valid > > > >>>>> options are FOR and AGAINST (PRESENT is also a valid vote, as are > > > >>>>> conditional votes). > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> ID Author(s) AI Title > > > >>>>> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >>>>> 8196 Jason Cobb, Falsifian 1.7 Perfecting pledges (v1.2) > > > >>>>> 8197 G. none no power is all powerful > > > >>>>> 8198 Jason Cobb 1.0 Be gone, foul demon! > > > >>>>> 8199 Jason Cobb 3.0 Fixing instant runoff > > > >>>>> 8200 Aris, G. 3.0 Sane AI Defaulting > > > >>>>> 8201 Aris 3.0 Just Make Them Write It Out > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> The proposal pool is currently empty. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> The full text of the aforementioned proposal(s) is included > below. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > > > >>>>> ID: 8196 > > > >>>>> Title: Perfecting pledges (v1.2) > > > >>>>> Adoption index: 1.7 > > > >>>>> Author: Jason Cobb > > > >>>>> Co-authors: Falsifian > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> [Comment: This clarifies the wording to explicitly use both the > > time > > > >>>>> window and penalty specified in the Oath. This also specifies > that > > > >>>>> pledges can only be violated once.] > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Amend the first paragraph of Rule 2450 ("Pledges") to read: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> If a Player makes a clear public pledge (syn. Oath) to > > perform (or > > > >>>>> refrain from performing) certain actions, then breaking the > > pledge > > > >>>>> within the pledge's time window is the Class N crime of > > > >>>>> Oathbreaking. If the pledge specifically states that the > > pledge is > > > >>>>> under penalty of a Class A crime, where A is an integer not > > less > > > >>>>> than 1, then N is A; otherwise, N is 2. If the pledge > > specifically > > > >>>>> states that it operates only for a certain time window, and > > if that > > > >>>>> time window is prospective and not retrospective, then it > > operates > > > >>>>> only for that time window; otherwise, the pledge operates > for > > 60 > > > >>>>> days. It is impossible to commit the crime of Oathbreaking > > multiple > > > >>>>> times for a single pledge; breaking a single pledge multiple > > times > > > >>>>> constitutes a single crime. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > > > >>>>> ID: 8197 > > > >>>>> Title: no power is all powerful > > > >>>>> Adoption index: none > > > >>>>> Author: G. > > > >>>>> Co-authors: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Create the following Rule, "Supreme Power", Power=4: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> G. CAN make arbitrary changes to the gamestate by > > announcement. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > > > >>>>> ID: 8198 > > > >>>>> Title: Be gone, foul demon! > > > >>>>> Adoption index: 1.0 > > > >>>>> Author: Jason Cobb > > > >>>>> Co-authors: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Repeal Rule 2596 ("The Ritual"). > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > > > >>>>> ID: 8199 > > > >>>>> Title: Fixing instant runoff > > > >>>>> Adoption index: 3.0 > > > >>>>> Author: Jason Cobb > > > >>>>> Co-authors: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Amend item 3 of the only list of Rule 2528 ("Voting Methods") to > > read: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> 3. For an instant runoff decision, non-empty ordered lists > > for which > > > >>>>> each element is a valid option. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > > > >>>>> ID: 8200 > > > >>>>> Title: Sane AI Defaulting > > > >>>>> Adoption index: 3.0 > > > >>>>> Author: Aris > > > >>>>> Co-authors: G. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Amend Rule 1950 (Decisions with Adoption Indices) by replacing: > > > >>>>> Adoption index is an untracked switch possessed by Agoran > > > >>>>> decisions and proposals, whose value is either "none" > > (default) or > > > >>>>> an integral multiple of 0.1 from 1.0 to 9.9. > > > >>>>> with: > > > >>>>> Adoption index (AI) is an untracked switch possessed by > Agoran > > > >>>>> decisions and proposals. For decisions, the possible values > > are > > > >>>>> "none" (default) or integral multiples of 0.1 from 1.0 to > 9.9. > > > >>>>> For proposals, the possible values are integral multiples of > > 0.1 > > > >>>>> from 1.0 to 9.9 (default 1.0). > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > > > >>>>> ID: 8201 > > > >>>>> Title: Just Make Them Write It Out > > > >>>>> Adoption index: 3.0 > > > >>>>> Author: Aris > > > >>>>> Co-authors: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> [It's terribly confusing for everyone to leave out a proposal > > title. Leaving > > > >>>>> out AI only works if it's 1.0 anyway, and confuses me every time > I > > see it. > > > >>>>> I usually spend like a solid minute checking that I haven't > missed > > something > > > >>>>> as Promotor and that the proposal is effective at that power as a > > player. > > > >>>>> Just making these fields mandatory would save everyone so much > > trouble and > > > >>>>> be only marginally more work for authors.] > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Amend Rule 2350, "Proposals", by changing the first paragraph, > > including > > > >>>>> the following list, to read in full: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> A proposal is an entity consisting of a body of text and > > > >>>>> other attributes. A player CAN create a proposal by > > announcement, > > > >>>>> specifying its text, an associated title, and a valid > > adoption index, and > > > >>>>> optionally specifying a list of co-authors (who must be > > persons other > > > >>>>> than the author). > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > > > > > -- > From R. Lee >
