G. commented that e moved most of the provisions, rather than deleting them. All we'd be doing is reconsolidating them.
A few other rights we might add: - The right to believe anything that isn't demonstrably false - The right not to be ignored - The right to have a path to obtain meaningful influence on the political process If anyone has any other suggestions, I'd be glad to hear them. -Aris On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 7:32 PM Cuddle Beam <cuddleb...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I don't see much immediate benefit in adding this because a lot seems > redundant. > > 1 - Doesn't Regulated Actions already cover this? > 2 - CFJs should cover this. > 3 - Shouldn't Contracts cover this? > 4 - I think this is new but it could be added I guess, somehow. > 5 - I think this is already in the Fora rules. > 6 - This should be in the Arbitor rules if it isn't already. > 7 - We already have a general unduly harassment rule, and deregistration is > free already I believe. > 8 - Could be expanded to that deregistering other people (even just one) is > also bad. Or a global cooldown on how frequently other people can be > deregistered by third persons, so that it's more of a mechanical and > unambiguous protection. Is two people "en masse"? Three? How many? > > It would be aesthetically nice to have a Bill of Rights, but it's too much > wordcount (to an already overwhelming ruleset) to be outweighed by it's > appealing feel, imo. > > On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 4:08 AM Aris Merchant < > thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 2:46 PM Aris Merchant > > <thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > I know we used to have a Bill of Rights in Rule 101. It might be neat > > > to add that back again. Does anyone (particularly anyone who around > > > when we last had it) have any comments on the idea of bringing back > > > legal rights? > > > > For public reference, the text of Rule 101 back when it was a bill of > > rights: > > > > Rule 101/15 (Power=3) > > The Rights of Agorans > > > > WHEREAS Agora, since its inception, has functioned not only as a > > game but as a society, and WHEREAS a society, to function, must > > balance its Rules with the natural rights of its participants, > > BE IT HEREBY PROCLAIMED that no interpretation of Agoran law or > > binding agreement may substantially limit or remove a person's > > rights as defined by this Rule, except through the explicit and > > legal amendment of this Rule. For the purposes of this Rule, a > > "person" is defined strictly as any unique biological organism > > that is generally capable of initiating the communication of > > independent thought, and a "player" is any such organism that is > > also a player of Agora. > > > > This rule takes precedence over any rule which would allow or > > mandate restrictions of the rights contained herein. > > > > i. Every person has the right, though not necessarily the > > ability, to perform actions that are not prohibited or > > regulated by the Rules, with the sole exception of > > changing the Rules, which is permitted only when the Rules > > explicitly or implicitly permit it. > > > > ii. Every person has the right to initiate a formal process to > > resolve matters of controversy, in the reasonable > > expectation that the controversy will thereby be resolved. > > Every person has the right to cause formal reconsideration > > of any judicial determination that e should be punished. > > > > iii. Every person has the right to refuse to become party to > > a binding agreement. The absence of a person's explicit, > > willful consent shall be considered a refusal. > > > > iv. Every person has the right to not be considered bound by > > an agreement, or an amendment to an agreement, or a Rule > > Change, which e has not had the reasonable opportunity to > > review. For the purpose of protecting this right, a rule > > change which would otherwise take effect without its > > substance being subject to general player review through a > > reasonably public process is wholly prevented from taking > > effect. > > > > v. Every player has the right of participation in the fora. > > > > vi. Every person has the right to not be penalized more than > > once for any single action or inaction. However, this > > right is not violated by replacing part or all of a > > penalty with a different but comparable penalty, e.g. when > > the rules governing penalties are amended. > > > > vii. Every player has the right to deregister; e may continue > > to accrue obligations and penalties after deregistration > > but, if e wishes to ignore the game, such penalties shall > > not unduly harass em. > > > > viii. The players of Agora have the right not to be > > deregistered en masse. A person has the right to > > register and to remain a player except where forbidden > > due to eir own prior actions. > > > > Please treat Agora right good forever. > > > > -Aris > >
