What about ribbons? One of those can be one by deceit, but most of them are a matter of skill. What about victory elections, or medals of honor? None of these are intended to be won by deceit, nor do I think the players who enacted them each expected to win by them.
-Aris On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Corona <[email protected]> wrote: > I would not vote for such a mechanic unless I estimated, based on past > experience, my proposal-voting abilities to be above these of other > players. If it turns out a player is capable of voting on more > proposals per month than I estimated, they have arguably commited some > deceit by not correcting my misconception about their voting ability. > (And perhaps by rarely voting on proposals prior to the win mechanic's > introduction, even if they had the time and it did not bore them or > anything) > > On 11/22/17, Alexis Hunt <[email protected]> wrote: >> That's not true at all. Many meaningful win mechanics are as those in other >> games: the person who does best at something. For instance, we could decide >> to award a win to the player who votes on the most proposals in a month; no >> deceit is necessary for the competition. >> >> On Wed, Nov 22, 2017, 17:29 Corona, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Indeed, if one is not willing to participate in the questionable >>> practice of trading wins (I'll support your proposal to award yourself >>> a win if you support mine), every win in nomics must involve some >>> level of deceit, as one can't force a win, or offer anything less than >>> a win for a win, as 'wins' are the most valuable 'asset'. >>> >>> On 11/22/17, ATMunn <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > Yes, me neither, I don't like the idea of breaking the rules just to >>> prevent >>> > a win. A win is a win, and if someone wins because of a scam, so what? >>> They >>> > become the Speaker, and the game moves on. >>> > >>> > On 11/22/2017 3:44 PM, Alex Smith wrote: >>> >> On Wed, 2017-11-22 at 20:39 +0000, Alexis Hunt wrote: >>> >>> Ahh, hmm, I think that might work provided we can get a non-player to >>> >>> call sufficient CFJs. Given the volume we couldn't do it with Shinies >>> >>> alone. >>> >> >>> >> I can do 5, but am unwilling to violate the rules as part of a >>> >> counterscam. (Also, I haven't thought of good topics for them yet.) >>> >> >>> > >>> >>
