Well, both can be right. O's interpretation has reversed some
transactions where, for example, someone was unable to buy a stamp and
said "I transfer 5 shinies to agora to buy a stamp". Those 5 shinies
could never have, in any case, led to buying a stamp, so the
transaction was reversed on that basis. The 1 shiny in my case is a
down-payment: part of a payment that will eventually total my debt to
Agora for the Estate.

On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 11:41 AM, Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> wrote:
>
>
> That's a reasonable common interpretation, I agree.  And your argument is
> plausible.  But it's exactly *not* how we interpreted recent transactions.
>
> To be clear, I would look back at those recent precedents (I don't offhand
> remember which cases or payments) to find the reasons for those judgements
> before coming to a conclusion on this one.  Both can't be right.
>
> Also:  didn't we have a long discussion on the definition of "spend"
> and "paid" and so forth that resulted in a proposal?  I thought we clarified
> some of those definitions did it never actually get proposed/distributed?
>
>
> On Wed, 8 Nov 2017, VJ Rada wrote:
>> I would disagree. If you said, for example "I'm eating all this fast
>> food for the purpose of gaining 10 kg", that wouldn't be an untrue
>> statement, even if the food was normal-sized and not 10 kilograms
>> heavy.
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 11:21 AM, Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, 8 Nov 2017, VJ Rada wrote:
>> >> 1: Make transactions from the Head to Agora of exactly 1 shiny, for
>> >> the sole purpose of paying for an Estate.
>> >
>> > Counterarguments:
>> >
>> > We've previously found that if you try to pay for something, and fail,
>> > the entire transaction fails.
>> >
>> > So the first attempt to pay 1 shiny fails because it doesn't accomplish
>> > it's purpose, etc.
>> >
>> > I believe o has been a strong proponent of this view, as e has repeatedly
>> > re-done official transactions because the amount hasn't been right.
>> >
>> > (Yes, I see that the difference in wording in Auctions versus other
>> > rules makes this a more borderline argument).
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> From V.J. Rada
>>
>



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>From V.J. Rada

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