Well, both can be right. O's interpretation has reversed some transactions where, for example, someone was unable to buy a stamp and said "I transfer 5 shinies to agora to buy a stamp". Those 5 shinies could never have, in any case, led to buying a stamp, so the transaction was reversed on that basis. The 1 shiny in my case is a down-payment: part of a payment that will eventually total my debt to Agora for the Estate.
On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 11:41 AM, Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> wrote: > > > That's a reasonable common interpretation, I agree. And your argument is > plausible. But it's exactly *not* how we interpreted recent transactions. > > To be clear, I would look back at those recent precedents (I don't offhand > remember which cases or payments) to find the reasons for those judgements > before coming to a conclusion on this one. Both can't be right. > > Also: didn't we have a long discussion on the definition of "spend" > and "paid" and so forth that resulted in a proposal? I thought we clarified > some of those definitions did it never actually get proposed/distributed? > > > On Wed, 8 Nov 2017, VJ Rada wrote: >> I would disagree. If you said, for example "I'm eating all this fast >> food for the purpose of gaining 10 kg", that wouldn't be an untrue >> statement, even if the food was normal-sized and not 10 kilograms >> heavy. >> >> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 11:21 AM, Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > On Wed, 8 Nov 2017, VJ Rada wrote: >> >> 1: Make transactions from the Head to Agora of exactly 1 shiny, for >> >> the sole purpose of paying for an Estate. >> > >> > Counterarguments: >> > >> > We've previously found that if you try to pay for something, and fail, >> > the entire transaction fails. >> > >> > So the first attempt to pay 1 shiny fails because it doesn't accomplish >> > it's purpose, etc. >> > >> > I believe o has been a strong proponent of this view, as e has repeatedly >> > re-done official transactions because the amount hasn't been right. >> > >> > (Yes, I see that the difference in wording in Auctions versus other >> > rules makes this a more borderline argument). >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> From V.J. Rada >> > -- >From V.J. Rada