You can't because you pended it with AP. ---- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com
> On Oct 15, 2017, at 8:27 PM, ATMunn . <iamingodsa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> TTttPF
>
> On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 8:26 PM, ATMunn . <iamingodsa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Is this new or am I not aware of something?
>
> Well, either way, I guess I also claim a reward of two shinies for authoring
> and pending a passed proposal.
>
> On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 4:16 PM, VJ Rada <vijar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I claim the reward of two shinies for authoring and pending a passed proposal.
>
> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 7:08 AM, VJ Rada <vijar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Quorums of 8 again ugh.
> >
> > Stop voting y'all lmao.
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 6:39 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
> > <p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I resolve the decision(s) to adopt proposal(s) 7908-7921 below.
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> [This notice resolves the Agoran decisions of whether to adopt the
> >> following proposals. For each decision, the options available to
> >> Agora are ADOPTED (*), REJECTED (x), and FAILED QUORUM (!). If a
> >> decision's voting period is still ongoing, I end it immediately
> >> before resolving it and after resolving the previous decision.]
> >>
> >> ID Author(s) AI Title Pender Pend fee
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> 7908* G. 1.0 Silly season G. OP [1]
> >> 7909* G. 1.2 No Lockout G. OP [1]
> >> 7910x G. 1.0 What is a rulekeepor G. OP [1]
> >> 7911* V.J. Rada 1.0 Infinite Money Fix V.J. Rada 1 sh.
> >> 7912* Alexis 3.0 Election Campaigns Alexis 1 AP [2]
> >> 7913* ATMunn 1.0 Cheer Up v7? ATMunn 1 AP
> >> 7914* o 1.0 SFDVP [3] o 1 AP
> >> 7915x CuddleBeam 1.0 Terrifying Proposals Reward CuddleBeam 1 AP
> >> 7916* Aris, o, G. 1.0 Pro Pace v2 Aris 1 AP
> >> 7917x P.S.S. [4], o 3.0 Banking P.S.S. [4] 1 sh.
> >> 7918* P.S.S. [4] 3.0 Vacant Deputisation Fix P.S.S. [4] 1 AP
> >> 7919x P.S.S. [4] 2.0 YSUIII. [5] P.S.S. [4] 1 AP
> >> 7920x Gaelan, Aris 1.0 The Lint Screen v2 Gaelan 1 sh.
> >> 7921* o, G. 2.0 Passive Income o 1 AP
> >> [1] Official Proposal, inherently pending
> >> [2] There is some debate over whether this was actually pended twice, each
> >> attempt consuming 1 AP. This value is therefore provisional.
> >>
> >> | | 7908 | 7909 | 7910 | 7911 | 7912 | 7913 | 7914 | 7915 | 7916 |
> >> 7917 | 7918 | 7919 | 7920 | 7921 |
> >> |--------+------+------+------+------+------+------+------+------+------+------+------+------+------+------+
> >> |Alexis | F | F | A | F | F | A | F | A | F | A
> >> | F | A | A | A |
> >> |Aris | F | F | A | F | A | F | F | A | F | A
> >> | F | A | F | F |
> >> |ATMunn | F | P | F | F | F | F | P | F | F | F
> >> | F | F | A | F |
> >> |G. | F | F | F | F | P | F | F | A | P | P
> >> | F | A | A | F |
> >> |Gaelan | F | P | A | F | F | F | F | P | F | P
> >> | F | A | F | F |
> >> |nichdel | F | P | A | F | P | A | F | A | P | P
> >> | P | A | P | P |
> >> |o | F | F | A | F | F | F | F | A | F | P
> >> | F | A | P | F |
> >> |PSS | F | F | A | F | F | F | F | A | F | F
> >> | F | F | A | F |
> >> |Trigon | F | F | A | F | P | F | A | A | F | F
> >> | F | F | F | F |
> >> |VJ Rada | FF | FF | AA | FF | FF | AA | P | | P | AA |
> >> FF | | AA | FF |
> >> |--------+------+------+------+------+------+------+------+------+------+------+------+------+------+------+
> >> |F/A | 11/0 | 8/0 | 2/9 | 11/0 | 7/1 | 7/4 | 7/1 | 1/7 | 7/0 |
> >> 3/4
> >> | 10/0 | 3/6 | 3/6 | 9/1 |
> >> |AI | 1.0 | 1.2 | 1.0 | 1.0 | 3.0 | 1.0 | 1.0 | 1.0 | 1.0 |
> >> 3.0
> >> | 3.0 | 2.0 | 1.0 | 2.0 |
> >> |V | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 9 | 10 | 10
> >> | 10 | 9 | 10 | 10 |
> >> |Q | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5
> >> | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 |
> >> |P | T | T | F | T | T | T | T | F | T | F
> >> | T | F | F | T |
> >>
> >>
> >> The full text of each adopted proposal is included below.
> >>
> >> //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
> >> ID: 7908
> >> Title: Silly season
> >> Adoption index: 1.0
> >> Author: G.
> >> Co-authors:
> >> Official Proposal
> >>
> >>
> >> Re-enact Rule 1650 (Silliness) with the following text:
> >>
> >> Each Nomic Week a Player is designated the Silly Person. The Silly
> >> Person
> >> SHALL in that week, by announcement (1) designate another player, who has
> >> not
> >> been the Silly Person in the past two weeks, to be the next week's Silly
> >> Person; (2) submit a Silly Proposal. If there is ever no Silly Person or
> >> the
> >> Silly Person is not a player, then the next week's Silly Person is the
> >> first
> >> player that any player publicly designates to be the next week's Silly
> >> Person.
> >>
> >> A Silly Proposal is a Proposal whose sole contents are one of
> >> the following:
> >> i) A limerick.
> >> ii) A rhymed poem no longer than fourteen lines. (No free
> >> verse!)
> >> iii) A joke of no more than a hundred words.
> >> iv) A truly hideous pun.
> >>
> >> The first Silly Proposal submitted by the week's Silly Person is an
> >> Official
> >> Proposal.
> >>
> >>
> >> [I want to reward the Silly Person a shiny, but we have that dumb limit
> >> that
> >> rewards can only be defined in R2445, and the Fearmongor rule may not allow
> >> me
> >> to include other rules in the proposal].
> >>
> >> [For Rulekeepor, given history of Rule 1650:
> >> History: Enacted as MI=1 Rule 1650 by Proposal 2673, 26 September 1996
> >> History: Repealed as Power=1 Rule 1650 by Proposal 3688
> >> (Repeal-O-Matic), 21 February 1998
> >> ]
> >>
> >> //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
> >> ID: 7909
> >> Title: No Lockout
> >> Adoption index: 1.2
> >> Author: G.
> >> Co-authors:
> >> Official Proposal
> >>
> >>
> >> Repeal Rule 2458 (Invoking Lockout).
> >>
> >> //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
> >> ID: 7911
> >> Title: Infinite Money Fix
> >> Adoption index: 1.0
> >> Author: V.J. Rada
> >> Co-authors:
> >>
> >>
> >> Amend rule 2496, "Rewards" by replacing
> >> "Publishing a duty-fulfilling report: 5 shinies."
> >>
> >> with
> >> "Publishing a duty-fulfilling report: 5 shinies. This reward can only be
> >> claimed once per office per week for a weekly report and once per office
> >> per
> >> month for a monthly report."
> >>
> >> //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
> >> ID: 7912
> >> Title: Election Campaigns
> >> Adoption index: 3.0
> >> Author: Alexis
> >> Co-authors:
> >>
> >>
> >> Text in square brackets in this proposal is only an annotation and this
> >> Proposal's effect is as if that text were not included at all.
> >>
> >> [Changes from the proto:
> >> - Added these annotations.
> >> - Reordered the rule changes to make a bit more sense.
> >> - Added the codification of the "you make it, you fill it" principle.
> >> - Made it so the current holder of an office can initiate an election
> >> for it by announcement.
> >> - Added provision for uncontested elections.
> >> - Increased pragmaticism.
> >> - Added essential parameters to Campaign Proposals.
> >> - A few other minor fixes.
> >> ]
> >>
> >> Amend rule 1006 (Offices) by adding the following paragraph before the
> >> final one:
> >>
> >> A holder of an elected office who did not become its holder by winning an
> >> election, and has not won an election for that office since, is an
> >> interim
> >> holder. An elected office that is either vacant or has an interim holder
> >> is an
> >> interim office.
> >>
> >> [This definition is used in election initiations, below. Basically, an
> >> interim
> >> holder is one who doesn't have a solid claim to hold onto the office, and
> >> vacancy is included in the definition of an interim office to avoid
> >> righting
> >> "if the office's holder is interim or if the office is vacant" everywhere.]
> >>
> >> Amend rule 1006 (Offices) by adding the following paragraph at the end:
> >>
> >> When a proposal takes effect and creates a new office, if the
> >> proposal does not specify otherwise, the author of that proposal
> >> becomes the holder of the office.
> >>
> >> [This codifies the "If you make an office, it's your job to fill it if
> >> no-one
> >> else does." principle. Note that the holder of an office installed this way
> >> is
> >> interim.]
> >>
> >> Enact a new rule entitled (Campaign Proposals, with power 3), reading as
> >> follows:
> >>
> >> During the nomination period of an election, any candidate for that
> >> election
> >> CAN submit a Campaign Proposal for that election, provided e does not
> >> currently have a pending Campaign Proposal for that election, using the
> >> normal
> >> mechanism for proposal submission. Campaign Proposals SHOULD relate to
> >> the
> >> duties of the office up for election. Commitment is an untracked Campaign
> >> Proposal switch with values Committed (default) and Uncommitted. The
> >> author
> >> of a Committed proposal may flip it to Uncommitted by announcement.
> >>
> >> [A Campaign Proposal is basically an extension of a candidate's platform,
> >> allowing them to propose changes to any office that they wish to associate
> >> with
> >> their election.
> >>
> >> Commitment is basically stating whether a candidate wishes to be elected
> >> only
> >> if their proposal passes. They can opt out of commitment, so that they can
> >> be
> >> elected if it fails. This allows a player to encode "I will take this
> >> office
> >> only if I can change it in this fashion." into the election system.]
> >>
> >> A Campaign Proposal is an Official Proposal exempt from automatic
> >> distribution, and SHALL NOT be distributed as required by the rules.
> >> The election with which a Campaign Proposal is associated, as well as its
> >> Commitment, are essential parameters for an Agoran decision to adopt a
> >> Campaign Proposal.
> >>
> >> [The election procedure dictates when Campaign Proposals should be
> >> distributed; they don't follow the normal distribution system. They also
> >> have some additional essential parameters, although note that a player
> >> can opt out of Commitment even after the proposal is distributed.]
> >>
> >> When a Campaign Proposal is adopted, it CANNOT take effect until
> >> the associated election ends. When the election ends, if the winner was
> >> the
> >> proposal's author, then any player CAN once make it take effect by
> >> announcement (with its power set as usual for an adopted proposal). If
> >> the
> >> conditions for a Campaign Proposal to take effect are met as a result of
> >> an
> >> action in a public message, the author of the message SHALL make it take
> >> effect in that message.
> >>
> >> [Campaign Proposals need to meet two requirements in order to take effect:
> >> their author must win the election and they must pass. The former is what
> >> ties
> >> them to the election and allows candidates to safely submit conflicting
> >> proposals. The latter is the safety guard (reinforced by rule 106 which
> >> prevents non-adopted proposals from taking effect) to ensure that a
> >> candidate can
> >>
> >> This also means that voters can vote on the Campaign Proposals based on
> >> whether or not they would be okay with the rule changes, knowing that
> >> the actual choice of which one takes effect is dictated by the election
> >> outcome.
> >>
> >> Requiring them to take effect by announcement is a safety guard to
> >> ensure that they don't take effect with no one noticing. In practice,
> >> the Assessor will nearly always do this in the same message as resolving
> >> the decision (and the poll, if applicable), however.]
> >>
> >> Amend rule 1607 (Distribution) by replacing
> >> "In a given Agoran week, the Promotor SHALL, as part of eir weekly
> >> duties,
> >> distribute all pending proposals."
> >> with
> >> "In a given Agoran week, the Promotor SHALL, as part of eir weekly
> >> duties,
> >> distribute all pending proposals except for those exempted from automatic
> >> distribution by other rules."
> >>
> >> [This ensures that the Promotor isn't obligated to distribute Campaign
> >> Proposals normally.]
> >>
> >> Amend rule 2154 (Election Procedure) to read as follows:
> >> A player CAN initiate an election for a specified office:
> >> a) With 2 Support, if either the office is interim or the
> >> most recent election for that office was resolved more
> >> than 90 days prior, and provided that the initiator
> >> becomes a candidate in the same message.
> >> b) By announcement, if e is the ADoP and if the office is
> >> interim, or if e is the holder of that office.
> >> The above notwithstanding, an election for an office CANNOT be
> >> initiated if one is already in progress.
> >>
> >> [This cleans up when elections can start. Basically, anyone can
> >> challenge the existing officer if they are interim or if they have been
> >> in their office for a long time; the ADoP can open an election for an
> >> office that needs one; and the current officer can always open
> >> competition for the office.]
> >>
> >> After an election is initiated and until nominations close, any player
> >> CAN
> >> become a candidate by announcement. A candidate ceases to be a candidate
> >> if e
> >> ceases to be a player during the election. An election is contested if it
> >> has
> >> two or more candidates at the end of the nomination period, and
> >> uncontested
> >> otherwise. For a contested election, nominations close at the end of the
> >> poll's voting period. For an uncontested election, nominations close at
> >> the
> >> end of the nomination period.
> >>
> >> [Players must explicitly opt-in to become candidates, and can do so up
> >> until
> >> the winner is locked in, effectively.]
> >>
> >> When an election is initiated, it enters the nomination period,
> >> which lasts for 7 days. In a timely fashion after the nomination
> >> period ends, the ADoP CAN and SHALL, in the same message:
> >> 1) If the election is contested, initiate an Agoran decision
> >> to select the winner of the election (the poll). For this
> >> decision, the Vote Collector is the Assessor, the valid
> >> options are the candidates for that election (including
> >> those who become candidates after its initiation), and the
> >> voting method is instant runoff.
> >> 2) Distribute all pending Campaign Proposals associated
> >> with the election.
> >> 3) If POSSIBLE per the following paragraph, end the election
> >> immediately.
> >>
> >> [After the nomination period, the ADoP kicks off the election by both
> >> starting
> >> the election poll (if needed) and distributing its Campaign Proposals. The
> >> Assessor is the vote collector for the poll because that seemed less
> >> invasive
> >> than forcing the ADoP to be vote collector for the proposals.]
> >>
> >> If at any point an uncontested election has a single candidate, and that
> >> candidate either is not the author of a Committed Campaign Proposal for
> >> that
> >> election or that proposal was adopted, then any player CAN declare them
> >> the
> >> winner of the election by announcement. If at any point an uncontested
> >> election has no candidates, or a single candidate who is the author of a
> >> failed Committed Campaign Proposal for that election, then any player CAN
> >> declare the election ended with no winner by announcement. The Assessor
> >> SHALL
> >> do one or the other in the same message in which e resolves a decision to
> >> adopt a Campaign Proposal for an ongoing uncontested election.
> >>
> >> [This paragraph is a bit of a doozy, but basically it means that
> >> uncontested
> >> elections work the way you think: if there are no candidates, they end, and
> >> if
> >> there is only won, they win. The complexity comes from the fact that if the
> >> one
> >> candidate has a Committed Proposal, then things must wait until it
> >> concludes,
> >> although they can flip it to Uncommitted and then end the election
> >> themselves.
> >>
> >> No provision is made for contested elections where all but one candidate
> >> has
> >> dropped out, since I didn't want to have to write rules to allow
> >> cancellation
> >> of Agoran decisions.]
> >>
> >> A poll CANNOT be resolved until the decisions to adopt all associated
> >> Campaign
> >> Proposals are resolved. When resolving the poll, if a given candidate
> >> authored
> >> one of the associated Campaign Proposals, that proposal is Committed, and
> >> it
> >> was not adopted, then that player is disqualified.
> >>
> >> [This provides that a player with a Committed proposal that failed is
> >> not permitted to win the election, as part the intent of Commitment.]
> >>
> >> When the poll is resolved, its outcome, if a player, wins the election.
> >> When
> >> a player wins an election, e is installed into the associated office and
> >> the
> >> election ends.
> >>
> >> Amend rule 955 (Determining the Will of Agora) by appending "The rule
> >> providing
> >> for an Agoran Decision by instant runoff may disqualify one or more
> >> options;
> >> in
> >> such a case, they are eliminated prior to beginning the first stage of the
> >> vote
> >> count."
> >>
> >> [Enabling of disqualification.]
> >>
> >> Amend rule 2138 (The Associate Director of Personnel) by replacing the
> >> bullet:
> >> 2. The date on which the most recent election for each office
> >> was initiated.
> >> with:
> >> 2. The current status of the ongoing election for that office
> >> or, if there is no ongoing election for that office, the
> >> date on which the last election ended
> >> 3. For filled elected offices, whether or not the holder is
> >> interim.
> >>
> >> [Since the actually relevant date for election timing is when the most
> >> recent election ended, not started, this changes the reporting to
> >> the election has no candidates, end it per the following paragraph.account
> >> for
> >> that. Likewise, interim office-holders should be marked so it is easy to
> >> know
> >> when elections can be started.]
> >>
> >> Amend rule 2472 (Office Incompatibilities) by replacing "Promotor and
> >> ADoP" with "Assessor and ADoP".
> >>
> >> [The Promotor and ADoP don't interact at all, but now, the ADoP
> >> distributes proposals. As a result, they should be kept apart from
> >> Assessor for the same reason as Promotor.]
> >>
> >> //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
> >> ID: 7913
> >> Title: Cheer Up v7?
> >> Adoption index: 1.0
> >> Author: ATMunn
> >> Co-authors:
> >>
> >>
> >> Create a power-1 rule titled "Emotions"
> >> {
> >> Emotion is a player switch, tracked by the registrar, with possible
> >> values
> >> Joyous, Melancholy, and Indifferent, that defaults to Indifferent.
> >>
> >> At any time, any player CAN by announcement flip eir own Emotion to any
> >> value it is currently not. When doing this, e MUST provide a reason as
> >> to
> >> why e changed eir Emotion as such. It is IMPOSSIBLE to change another
> >> player's Emotion. A player's Emotion has the following effects:
> >>
> >> Indifferent: No effect.
> >> Melancholy: Any player that is not currently Melancholy MAY pat any
> >> Melancholy
> >> player on the back. Upon doing this, the Melancholy player is ENCOURAGED
> >> to
> >> change eir emotion to Joyous.
> >> Joyous: Any player that is Joyous is ENCOURAGED to pat Melancholy players
> >> on
> >> the back. E is also ENCOURAGED to do other kind acts, such as paying
> >> shinies
> >> to other players or pending other players' proposals.
> >> }
> >>
> >> //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
> >> ID: 7914
> >> Title: Stamp Floating Derived Value Patch
> >> Adoption index: 1.0
> >> Author: o
> >> Co-authors:
> >>
> >>
> >> Amend rule 2498 (“Economic Wins”) by removing the paragraph that begins
> >> “The Stamp Value is”.
> >>
> >> //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
> >> ID: 7916
> >> Title: Pro Pace v2
> >> Adoption index: 1.0
> >> Author: Aris
> >> Co-authors: o, G.
> >>
> >>
> >> Amend the Rule entitled "Such is Karma", if there is such a rule, by
> >> replacing
> >> every instance of the word "Eta" with the word "Gamma".
> >>
> >> //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
> >> ID: 7918
> >> Title: Vacant Deputisation Fix
> >> Adoption index: 3.0
> >> Author: Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
> >> Co-authors:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Replace the second item of the second numbered list of "Deputisation",
> >>> with
> >>
> >>
> >> the following:
> >>
> >>> 2. Either (i) A time limit by which the rules require the action to be
> >>> performed has expired or (ii) the office is vacant.
> >>
> >>
> >> //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
> >> ID: 7921
> >> Title: Passive Income
> >> Adoption index: 2.0
> >> Author: o
> >> Co-authors: G.
> >>
> >>
> >> Create a new rule, titled "Distributing Assets", with power 1, whose text
> >> is
> >>
> >> To “distribute” a quantity of a fungible asset to a set of recipients is
> >> to
> >> transfer one instance of that asset at a time to the recipient that owns
> >> the least number of instances of that asset, until either no more
> >> instances
> >> of the asset are eligible to be distributed, or the number of instances
> >> so
> >> transferred equals the quantity to be distributed. If, when distributing
> >> a
> >> specific asset, two or more recipients each own the least number of
> >> instances
> >> of that asset, then the recipient that most recently became eligible to
> >> own
> >> the asset SHALL receive the asset being distributed.
> >>
> >> Create a rule, titled "Passive Income", with power 2, whose text is
> >>
> >> The Tax Rate is a singleton natural switch which can take values between > >> 0
> >> and 100, inclusive, tracked by the Secretary. The Tax Rate has a default
> >> value of 50.
> >>
> >> Whenever Agora receives Shinies from another owner other than itself, the
> >> Secretary CAN cause Agora to distribute a percentage of that payment
> >> equal
> >> to the Tax Rate to all players, and SHALL do so in a timely fashion. As
> >> part of eir weekly duties, the Secretary SHALL do so for all payments to
> >> Agora that have not yet been distributed.
> >>
> >> //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > From V.J. Rada
>
>
>
> --
> From V.J. Rada
>
>
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