On Tue, 3 Oct 2017, Owen Jacobson wrote:
> The “technical domain” precedent has never, to my knowledge, been overturned. 
> The tooling I’m working on right now treats the Date: header as authoritative 
> by 
> default, on the presumption that (a) we can amend a recorded message that’s 
> got 
> the wrong date, and (b) people won’t lie in their headers very often, but this
> is how that assumption can fail. I also use Date: when figuring out event 
> times 
> for reports.

So the TDOC precedent was set long ago in a very different ruleset.  I've always
been of the opinion that we should go with the Date: header, and the knowledge 
that it can be forged for tiny advantage be dealt with by some kind of crime 
(e.g.
"if the date-headers show discrepancy, and that discrepancy would gain a 
material advantage...") and say "not messing with the headers" is the same as
"not playing as two people from different accounts":  strong social pressure not
to do so, but not worth our time to be paranoid about.  The convenience of the
Date header all around is worth accepting that it's *possible* to fake.


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