Karma is bootleg democracy though imo, but I like both (I believe popularity is extremely relevant anyway at nomic in general, regardless of if such a system enables it or not. It's a factor both at Blognomic and Agora at an informal level, and the informal level governs everything else imo.)
On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 12:38 AM, Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > I pay Agora 1 shiny to pend "Truthfulness v2". I'm not sure it's going > to pass, but I'd like to see what arguments people add to their votes. > I'm also worried that as nichdel pointed out, a "democratized" system > is likely to turn into a popularity contest, although G.'s karma thing > sounds interesting. > > -Aris > > On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 12:45 AM, Aris Merchant > <thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I retract the proposal "Truthfulness", and submit the following. > > > > --- > > Title: Truthfulness v2 > > Adoption index: 1.0 > > Author: Aris > > Co-authors: > > > > Amend Rule 2471, "No Faking", by changing it to read in full: > > > > A person SHALL NOT make a public statement that is a lie. A statment > is a lie > > if its publisher either knew or believed it to be not to be true at > the time > > e published it (or, in the case of an action, not to be effective), > and it > > was made with the intent to mislead. Merely quoting a statement does > not > > constitute making it for the purposes of this rule. Any disclaimer, > > conditional clause, or other qualifier attached to a statement > constitutes > > part of the statement for the purposes of this rule; the truth or > falsity of > > the whole is what is significant. > > > > The previous provisions of this rule notwithstanding, a formal > announcement of > > intent is never a lie. > > > > On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 12:33 AM, Aris Merchant > > <thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I submit the following proposal. Proposals are cheap, so I'm just > >> going to put this out and probably pend it tomorrow. This alters our > >> current "No Faking" Rule, changing it into an old-fashioned no lying > >> in public rule. My primary motivation for this is the rather vague > >> idea that it might lead to interesting gameplay, as it certainly did > >> in the past. Note that it only applies to the public fora, so you're > >> free to lie as much as you like on a-d, as I understand is > >> traditional. I borrowed most of the text, tweaking it to make it a > >> little less demanding. > >> > >> -Aris > >> --- > >> Title: Truthfulness > >> Adoption index: 1.0 > >> Author: Aris > >> Co-authors: > >> > >> Amend Rule 2471, "No Faking", by changing it to read in full: > >> > >> A person SHALL NOT make a public statement that is a lie. A statment > is a lie > >> if its publisher either knew or believed it to be not to be true (or, > in the > >> case of an action, not to be effective), and it is made with the > intent to > >> mislead. Merely quoting a statement does not constitute making it for > the > >> purposes of this rule. Any disclaimer, conditional clause, or other > >> qualifier attached to a statement constitutes part of the statement > for > >> the purposes of this rule; the truth or falsity of the whole is what > is > >> significant. > >> > >> The previous provisions of this rule notwithstanding, a formal > announcement of > >> intent is never a lie. >
