Proto: White Card: This card is appropriate for cases of unsportsmanlike contact where no other card is appropriate. This card can be (and only be) awarded by announcement which also contains a specification of a number and 3 support. The possessor of this card cannot perform any ruleset-granted action for that number's amount of days.
On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 7:41 PM, Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> wrote: > > > I've always disliked thought police rules, we've had them, but both > the burden of evidence and bad feeling make them a pain, and trying > to codify specific forbidden speech leaves loopholes where a scammer > can skirt the technical punishment while still being just as "bad". > > Going along with our current punishment metaphor, and recent discussion of > conduct, why not just implement an "unsportsmanlike conduct" card with some > general guidelines on what that is, maybe a higher bar for fingerpointing > (I dunno, > 3 support) and/or letting judges figure out what qualifies... > > On Sun, 10 Sep 2017, Cuddle Beam wrote: > > Do statements on a-d count? > > Do statements that people publish elsewhere, outside of Agora, also > count? > > > > On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 9:45 AM, Aris Merchant < > thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I retract the proposal "Truthfulness", and submit the following. > > > > --- > > Title: Truthfulness v2 > > Adoption index: 1.0 > > Author: Aris > > Co-authors: > > > > Amend Rule 2471, "No Faking", by changing it to read in full: > > > > A person SHALL NOT make a public statement that is a lie. A > statment is a lie > > if its publisher either knew or believed it to be not to be true > at the time > > e published it (or, in the case of an action, not to be > effective), and it > > was made with the intent to mislead. Merely quoting a statement > does not > > constitute making it for the purposes of this rule. Any > disclaimer, > > conditional clause, or other qualifier attached to a statement > constitutes > > part of the statement for the purposes of this rule; the truth > or falsity of > > the whole is what is significant. > > > > The previous provisions of this rule notwithstanding, a formal > announcement of > > intent is never a lie. > > > > On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 12:33 AM, Aris Merchant > > <thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I submit the following proposal. Proposals are cheap, so I'm just > > > going to put this out and probably pend it tomorrow. This alters > our > > > current "No Faking" Rule, changing it into an old-fashioned no > lying > > > in public rule. My primary motivation for this is the rather > vague > > > idea that it might lead to interesting gameplay, as it certainly > did > > > in the past. Note that it only applies to the public fora, so > you're > > > free to lie as much as you like on a-d, as I understand is > > > traditional. I borrowed most of the text, tweaking it to make it > a > > > little less demanding. > > > > > > -Aris > > > --- > > > Title: Truthfulness > > > Adoption index: 1.0 > > > Author: Aris > > > Co-authors: > > > > > > Amend Rule 2471, "No Faking", by changing it to read in full: > > > > > > A person SHALL NOT make a public statement that is a lie. A > statment is a lie > > > if its publisher either knew or believed it to be not to be > true (or, in the > > > case of an action, not to be effective), and it is made with > the intent to > > > mislead. Merely quoting a statement does not constitute making > it for the > > > purposes of this rule. Any disclaimer, conditional clause, or > other > > > qualifier attached to a statement constitutes part of the > statement for > > > the purposes of this rule; the truth or falsity of the whole > is what is > > > significant. > > > > > > The previous provisions of this rule notwithstanding, a formal > announcement of > > > intent is never a lie. > > > > > > > > >
