I feel like its a safety measure against someone suddenly spawning infinite cash and making shinies worthless.
If that can be avoided (maybe the cap can increase per each Welcoming Package? Or over time? Inflation, baby) then, I'd be totally for it. On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 6:07 PM, Quazie <quazieno...@gmail.com> wrote: > I hate the economy cap - it doesn't seem fun, and seems to ruin any chance > of a basic income > On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 09:06 Cuddle Beam <cuddleb...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I agree there. However I feel like Agora is going to be bone dry every >> single time a "get a lot of shinies" scam appears, and a lot of them have >> popped up so far (iirc, there is that official report one that VJ has >> pointed out, there is the mass Stamp destruction one which Gaelan has >> perfected, that bogus report one floating around and the issue of >> re-registering repeatedly to claim Welcome Packages en masse). >> >> Maybe something like this would help? Proto: >> >> "If Agora has 100 or less shinies, Agora can only give shinies by virtue >> of granting Welcoming Packages." >> >> And then reinforce Welcoming Package rules too >> >> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 4:52 PM, Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> It doesn't take 30 days due to a bug. >>> >>> To use the bug, deregister, and re-register without using the words >>> "I register" or "I become a player", or other action verbs rather, >>> re-register by passive language indicating "reasonably clearly and >>> reasonably unambiguously that e intends to become a player at that >>> time." >>> >>> I'd think about doing so as a protest; the difficulty towards casual >>> player economic participation has been pointed out and so far in >>> conversations, the designers of the system either aren't seeing the >>> great urgency to fix it, or think it's a feature. >>> >>> Of course, there aren't enough shinies to give you a welcome package >>> now, so it depends on your current holdings. Another failing of >>> the system is no one is actually responsible or held accountable >>> for failing to pay out welcome packages - this system definitely >>> supports the gerontocracy, much worse than other systems I've seen. >>> >>> (Not that I think this was the intent, but at this time it should >>> be clear and as game designers, there should be some urgency in >>> fixing it). >>> >>> On Thu, 7 Sep 2017, Josh T wrote: >>> > I would like my stamp or the value of Shinies which I paid for it back >>> because I do not >>> > effectively have a way to earn Shinies as a casual player. If >>> deregistration and >>> > re-registering didn't take 30 days I would seriously consider doing so >>> so I qualify for >>> > another welcome package at this point. Expect me to do so at some >>> point if the economy >>> > doesn't get fixed, and re-implement everything I own. >>> > >>> > 天火狐 >>> > >>> > On 7 September 2017 at 09:32, Gaelan Steele <g...@canishe.com> wrote: >>> > That was my main reason for assuming it would fail, and why my >>> attempt specified an order. >>> > >>> > Gaelan >>> > >>> > > On Sep 7, 2017, at 5:55 AM, Kerim Aydin < >>> ke...@u.washington.edu> wrote: >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > Coming back to the "all stamps" statement. >>> > > >>> > > "all" is a convenient shorthand and wholly unofficial. If it >>> is too >>> > > difficult (ambigious) for an officer to calculate, we can >>> assume that >>> > > the actor also didn't sufficiently specify the set to perform >>> multiple >>> > > actions, and is uncertain about what it is shorthand for, and >>> the whole >>> > > thing is unsuitably ambiguous. >>> > > >>> > > ALSO: we stated that "If a transaction doesn't go through, >>> the whole >>> > > thing fails." Would Agora have run out of shinies partway >>> through >>> > > destroying stamps? If so, some stamps survived. If we don't >>> know >>> > > the order in which stamps were destroyed, it is ambiguous >>> which ones >>> > > were destroyed. This is also enough to toss the whole thing >>> out. >>> > > >>> > > (There is also a precedent, which I can find if there's a CFJ, >>> that we >>> > > require extra scrutiny on scam actions). >>> > > >>> > > >>> > >> On Thu, 7 Sep 2017, V.J Rada wrote: >>> > >> how much is this by the way? It may be a nightmare to >>> bookkeep every >>> > >> stamp for poor o. >>> > >> >>> > >>> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 4:59 PM, Cuddle Beam < >>> cuddleb...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > >>> OK, we're all stupid lol, let me fix it then : P >>> > >>> >>> > >>> I destroy all stamps and cause Agora to transfer, for each, >>> the Stamp Value >>> > >>> to me, in shinies. >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>>> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 8:57 AM, V.J Rada < >>> vijar...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> "e tried to have Agora transfer em the FLOATING value, not >>> the SHINY >>> > >>>> value." >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> I think you mean STAMP value :) >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>>> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 4:51 PM, Gaelan Steele < >>> g...@canishe.com> wrote: >>> > >>>>> I discovered two problems with Cuddle’s attempt. The >>> first, which I >>> > >>>>> believe is sufficient to make it fail, is that e tried to >>> have Agora >>> > >>>>> transfer em the FLOATING value, not the SHINY value. This >>> means that VJ got >>> > >>>>> his rewards. My other reason remains classified. >>> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> I’d advise that VJ still refrain from spending his shinies >>> until we are >>> > >>>>> absolutely certain that the typo failed it. >>> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> Gaelan >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> -- >>> > >>>> From V.J Rada >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> -- >>> > >> From V.J Rada >>> > >> >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >> >>
