On 07/18/2017 09:58 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:

On Tue, 18 Jul 2017, Owen Jacobson wrote:
     A person whose Vexity is zero may initiate a Call for Judgement by
     announcement. A person whose Vexity is not zero may initiate a Call
     for Judgement with N Agoran Support, where N is the value of that
     person's Vexity switch.
The fact that there are circumstances in which a person CANNOT initiate
a CFJ on eir own is pretty clearly a violation of R217, IMO.  It's a
direct Rules to the Contrary Notwithstanding requirement that a person
be able to do this.

Initiate to later have dismissed?  Fine.  Not able to initiate without
another player's intervention?  Not fine I would guess.


I've been wondering about this in the context of the economy overhaul: In it *players* need to use shinies or AP to initiate CFJs, but *persons* can do it for free if they aren't a player. Does that pass R217's bar [1]?

[1] "Rules to the contrary notwithstanding, any rule <http://agoranomic.org/ruleset/#Rule2141> change that would (1) prevent a person <http://agoranomic.org/ruleset/#Rule869> from initiating a formal process to resolve matters of controversy, in the reasonable expectation that the controversy will thereby be resolved; or (2) prevent a person from causing formal reconsideration of any judicial determination that e should be punished, is wholly void and without effect."

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