You might be surprised at this, but I'll be sad to see you go, and glad if you 
return. While I agree with others that certain ideas you've tried were poorly 
thought out at best, and that you carried them on far longer than was wise, in 
other respects you've shown some interesting capacity for experiments on 
Agora's rules.

I'd much prefer that we learned to have an Agora which could include you, too, 
in the long run, and I don't think you've made yourself permanently unwelcome.

I hope you reconsider. Embarrassment passes. 

-o

> On Jul 21, 2017, at 1:57 AM, Aris Merchant 
> <thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 10:53 PM, Cuddle Beam <cuddleb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'm a bit embarrassed about everything going on, so I'll deregister.
>> 
>> In my defense for the latest thing, I did take a situation which is entirely
>> innocuous to the rest of the game (trust tokens, who uses them? And even
>> then, you could still issue them yourself whenever. No urgency or
>> significant connection to everything else, unless you make it so.) and I did
>> put a warning that it was exotic territory:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/agora-business@agoranomic.org/msg28889.html, and
>> I repeated it as I discussed it.
>> 
>> So, I was aware that it deviant. That's why I made it separate and I put a
>> notice about it in the first place. But then it started to escalate and I
>> don't mind when its limited to the lounge of talking about what I've brought
>> up, but then it started to spill everywhere else somehow, and that wasn't my
>> intent.
>> 
>> I tried for it to be separate from everyone else's concerns and whoever was
>> interested in it, could participate, with me deliberately choosing a
>> situation that I believed that pretty much anyone not into it could just
>> ignore. That's why I chose that compartmentalized situation it and added
>> frequent notices that yes, I'm going pretty off-shore with what I'm using as
>> premises. Or maybe trying to do stuff like that doesn't work at all at the
>> Agoran context. At least, for me personally, it does work. I ignore pretty
>> much everything except replies on my own things on a-b, for example. And I
>> haven't read any of the discussion about the economy or all of those
>> doohickeys, because whatever result about that will be cool with me. But
>> maybe its not the same for everyone else.
>> 
>> If I'm guilty of using deviant interpretation, sure. That was what I was
>> using. I already know that it has an extremely low chance of being broadly
>> taken as correct, because it uses a set of "axioms" (which are arbitrary),
>> which don't have much in common with the majority. But while it has that
>> extremely low chance - if by some feat of skill, discovery and luck, I
>> actually *do* make it work, then whoa. That makes it worthwhile for me.
>> Proving the impossible.
>> 
>> But oh well. I think its better for the both of us if I dereg for now. I do
>> enjoy discussing things with several people here, perhaps once I learn to
>> how to better separate the shell from the oyster we can dine on good
>> discussion together here again.
>> 
>> (and I'll go and suck on my shells somewhere else lol).
> 
> I have no clue what the appropriate response is, so I'm just going to
> restrict this to a technical point (note that I take no game actions
> in this message): you have to actually say "I deregister".
> 
> -Aris

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