On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 1:04 PM Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, 26 May 2017, Josh T wrote:
> > > I think the judge's "additional argument" is actually all that's
> needed to find the CFJ false.
> > I really don't have an objection with the outcome. I agree with your
> point that that additional
> > argument is sufficient in ruling this CFJ false. I just think that it
> serves Agora better Good to
> > not codify a potential fallacy and have a clear
> > opinion piece on the subject of ambiguity.
> >
> > 天火狐
>
> Oh, yes... I should have added that I generally agree with your problems
> with using R1698 as a
> primary reason.
>
> Especially as CFJs don't generally change the gamestate, they just tell us
> what the gamestate
> actually is.  So if we used R1698 as a basis (saying "yes, everything's
> ambiguous, but admitting
> that would ossify the game") then what we'd *really* have to conclude is
> "that means the rule
> change, however many years ago, that stated ambiguous actions fail, would
> have ossified the
> game - so that's cancelled and didn't occur."  So we have to go back and
> recalculate everything
> from that point (including re-visiting every single ambiguous action we've
> ever discarded since
> then)!!
>

Note: We should have a regular 'Ratify the world' event to prevent us from
going back too far.

Though i guess if you have to zip back time that far then you get to
pre-ratification, and then you're boned anwyays.

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